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Category:Ascension Thursday songs
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Category:German Silesia
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Nominator's rationale:delete,
German Silesia is and was never a real administrative entity, it is merely a made-up intersection between a past
Province of Silesia and a current country. Note that the larger part of Silesia is currently in Poland, only a tiny corner of it stretches into current Germany. The category also overlaps quite a bit with the Lusatia categories nominated below by
User:Fayenatic london.
Marcocapelle (
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18:40, 19 April 2022 (UTC)reply
Keep - The problem with the nomination is that the category was never intended to deal with an "administrative entity" but with a historical region and especially with the area that still makes part of Germany (like the
former counties in Northern Ireland, which by the way also overlap with the present administrative jurisdictions).--
Darius (
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01:00, 20 April 2022 (UTC)reply
German Silesia isn't a historical region while Silesia is.
Even if it were a historical region, it should contain articles about the historical region - but these articles apparently do not exist, not even an article about German Silesia itself. The category merely contains articles about populated places which tell us nothing about German Silesia as a region.
Marcocapelle (
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05:40, 20 April 2022 (UTC)reply
Support per precedent, categories for populated places in former countries should not be allowed. If German Silesia is a thing at all, it is a former thing. The contents consists only of current places in the former thing.
Laurel Lodged (
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13:26, 20 April 2022 (UTC)reply
Support per precedents.
Province of Silesia contains a list of districts; it might be useful to tabulate those lists with a column or colour code to indicate the current country, and to add a column for cities and towns within each district. However, using categories for this is not appropriate. –
FayenaticLondon10:39, 23 April 2022 (UTC)reply
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Category:Viking Age in the British Isles
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This is quite a different discussion: should the by-modern-country exist at all? Still, the British Isles category does not solve that problem, since Ireland, Scotland and England had a very different history.
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19:09, 20 April 2022 (UTC)reply
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Category:LGBT-related controversies in Saudi Arabia
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Delete per nom. If there were a decent amount of articles about controversies the categories would be ok but currently there aren't any such articles.
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Category:Ovenbirds
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Category:People from Avonmore, Pennsylvania
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Category:Populated places in Lower Lusatia
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Nominator's rationale: Nonsense babel category -
Category:User siyi does not exist and "siyi" does not appear to be a valid language code. While I understand that this was created to clear
Special:WantedCategories, it's not clear why the creator didn't just remove it from the sole member's user page, since that user hasn't objected to several other redlinked categories being removed.
* Pppery *it has begun...02:52, 19 April 2022 (UTC)reply
Keep unless empty. If this is indeed a nonsense category, then the remedy is stop the wretched Babel system system from populating it; then it can be speedily deleted as empty. I am annoyed with the nominator @
Pppery for trying to blame this stuff on the editors who work hard on the thankless task of clearing
Special:WantedCategories. Removing categories from userpages often generates howls of outrage from editors who don't understand (or won't comply) with
WP:USERPAGE, and hacking their babel setup will be even more likely to cause drama. Please try to assist those editors who put in many hours on this maintenance, instead of making their job harder and blaming them for the disruptive folly of some users. The way to help is to fix the template which populates the category, rather than coming to CFD to tackle the symptom. --
BrownHairedGirl(talk) • (
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03:24, 19 April 2022 (UTC)reply
This isn't populated by a template; it's populated by the literal wikitext [[Category:User siyi-1|{{PAGENAME}}]] on the sole user's page. There's nothing I could have fixed here (other than removing that bit of wikitext myself, but wouldn't that be emptying a category out of process?) And I agree I should have stated that in the nomination statement since it was the premise of my "it's unclear why" part, but it somehow didn't occur to me at the time - sorry.
* Pppery *it has begun...03:29, 19 April 2022 (UTC)reply
Thanks, @
Pppery. Sorry I misunderstood you; that triggered my memory of many months working all day ever day to clear a backlog of over 40,000 entries in
Special:WantedCategories, while some wannabe-funny-guys spammed junk into the cleanup list. Sorry that my response came out as a growl.
So it's not actually babel-crap; it's fake babel-crap. Nuke it, and nuke the user who thinks that this carp is funny.
Comment Hoisanese/Toisanese/Taishanese/Siyihua was the lingua franca for North American Chinatowns in the early to mid 20th century. So, I think such a category could end up with several users, if it occurs to them to look for it, and to switch from using User yue categorization --
65.92.246.142 (
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04:42, 23 April 2022 (UTC)reply
If it's incorrectly named, how would they find it? This language has more speakers than many other languages with babel boxes/categories. It's a fairly prominent language in North American Chinatowns and in Hong Kong, so there should be a population familiar with English with this facility. --
65.92.246.142 (
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16:28, 23 April 2022 (UTC)reply
@
Sun8908: I don't think merging into the detailed levels yue-1 to 5 would work.
User:HongQiGong claims to speak Yue as a native (User yue-N) but Taishanese only at a basic level (User siyi-1), and I think you are in effect saying the same for yourself. –
FayenaticLondon14:06, 28 May 2022 (UTC)reply
Yes, for spoken language, we are basically different but the written language is quite the same. We can write on
Cantonese Wikipedia since both and other varieties are basically the same for the written form. They are usually regarded as the same language. It is not useful to include
babel just for spoken differences on Wikipedia, at least in my opinion.
Sun8908Talk16:40, 28 May 2022 (UTC)reply
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Category:User nz-m
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Category:User oji-2
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Category:Depreciated sources on Wikipedia
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Nominator's rationale:Delete This is not an encyclopedic category, is self-referential, contains categorically wrong entries (like
arXiv or
Anadolu Agency, which are not deprecated by any stretch of the imagination) and is misspelled. Headbomb {
t ·
c ·
p ·
b}00:18, 19 April 2022 (UTC)reply
Which is not a category with an encyclopedic purposes, nor are the sources you are adding to this category deprecated sources. Headbomb {
t ·
c ·
p ·
b}00:38, 19 April 2022 (UTC)reply
Delete as out-of-order. I could understand a similar sort of category for projectspace, but it is completely inappropriate for this to be linking articles. Also, I may just be dumb and can't see it, but where is the misspelling?
Curbon7 (
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00:59, 19 April 2022 (UTC)reply
Delete. Categories in articles are for our readers' benefit, not the benefit of editors. The idea of this category is to label the articles of deprecated sources as such, but that sort of information is collected largely for the sake of editors. Until a time where deprecation on Wikipedia is a notable topic and a mainspace list of these sorts of deprecations is justified, I don’t see a user-oriented reason to have a mainspace category. On top of that, depreciation and deprecation are quite different; the spelling indicates that the former is the core to the category, while the category's members indicate the latter is core. —
Mhawk10 (
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15:08, 19 April 2022 (UTC)reply
Comment: I have learned a lot from this thread. I'm changing my vote to speedy delete unless anybody else has an objection? I concede this wasn't the way to make an editor category. I should have asked for more peer guidance first.
CaribDigita (
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07:29, 29 April 2022 (UTC)reply
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