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Category:Safavid Empire

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. (non-admin closure) 2pou ( talk) 22:03, 13 January 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: rename per main article: Safavid Empire redirects to Safavid Iran. I am not sure whether this is an uncontroversial speedy rename candidate. Marcocapelle ( talk) 20:47, 5 January 2021 (UTC) reply
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Category:Venetian emigrants

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:43, 14 January 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: only 1. We dont categorise emigrants by city of origin. There is a seperate Category:Republic of Venice emigrants Rathfelder ( talk) 20:39, 5 January 2021 (UTC) reply
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Agencies of the Confederate States government

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The result of the discussion was: merge/delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:41, 14 January 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: removing unnecessary redundant and empty intermediate layers. The only content of this entire category structure is ‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.›  Category:Military of the Confederate States and its subcontent, such as ‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.›  Category:Confederate States War Department. Place Clichy ( talk) 16:37, 5 January 2021 (UTC) reply
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Category:American actor-athletes

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The result of the discussion was: delete. – Fayenatic London 22:33, 31 January 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Non-defining intersection of two separate professions. User:Namiba 15:23, 5 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete That's why we have separate categories for the different unrelated professions. There is no reason for a category of actor-athlete hybrids. This is a perfect example WP:Overcategorization with current actor and athlete categories which you easily feature the article on. ₛₒₘₑBₒdyₐₙyBₒdy₀₅ ( talk) 15:30, 5 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete No source to indicate that this is a notable topic. Dimadick ( talk) 16:15, 5 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete That many athletes become actors is true. John Wayne is an easy to think of example. Dean Cain is also an example that comes to mind. However I do not think this is a defining intersection. I am also not sure we are going to be able to regulate it to truly defining intersection cases. A-there are a huge number of films and television series made where athletes act in them, mainly doing athletic things though. If that is the only role, I think it would be non-defining. However we have cases like Steve Young who had a role in one episode of Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman where he played one of Lois Lane's former high school friends. He was described even as a former football player, but it is not like he was running around the field in the film. Still if this one episode in the show as a supporting character is Young's entire acting career, this is not enough to categorize by. Anyone to fit this would need to clearly meet at least the multiple "significant" roles in notable productions threshold to be put in. Do we have the resources to make sure that is done? At the same time they would also have to meet the other side of it, be a notable athlete. Since this is an American cat I guess we can use athlete broadly (except we normally do not). So if this meant to be people in athletic who were also actors or actresses, or does it mean people in sports who were also actors or actresses. If it is intent for the later, in the unlikely event we keep it it should be renamed Category:American actor-sportspeople. However that also brings up the question, how much sports do we need. I am sure there are huge numbers of people who had notable acting careers who played sports in high school, a smaller but still significant number who played in college. Basically to fit in this category we should limit it to people who we can clearly show that their role as a sports person and as an actor were both notable. However we also need to be able to create Actor-athlete or actor-sportsperson as an article that is reliable sourced and more than just a list. It has to say something substantive about the importance of the intersection of careers. I do not think this can be done. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 18:12, 5 January 2021 (UTC) reply
Note I've added Category:American athlete-politicians. If there are objections from anyone who has already commented, please let me know and I will create a separate nomination.-- User:Namiba 21:11, 5 January 2021 (UTC) reply
Namiba, I would object to including ‹The template Cat is being considered for merging.›  Category:American athlete-politicians in this nomination, not necessarily because I think it should be kept, but for two reasons. (1) Because it is part of the quite-extensive ‹The template Cat is being considered for merging.›  Category:Sportsperson-politicians by nationality, and I don't think that just one of these should be discussed in isolation, and (2) because the tree was discussed previously with a no consensus result. See here. Good Ol’factory (talk) 06:27, 6 January 2021 (UTC) reply
Fair enough. I will nominate it separately and removed it from this discussion.-- User:Namiba 13:37, 6 January 2021 (UTC) reply
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Category:Scholars of constitutional law

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge Category:Constitutional law scholars to Category:Scholars of constitutional law. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:39, 14 January 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: The latter phrasing is consistent with other members of Category:Legal scholars by specialty. ( t · c) buidhe 14:06, 5 January 2021 (UTC) reply
William Allen Simpson ( talk) 17:32, 7 January 2021 (UTC) reply
The form "X law scholars" is more concise, so I would support renaming them all to that. ( t · c) buidhe 12:13, 8 January 2021 (UTC) reply
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Category:Murdered explorers

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:07, 19 January 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: As suggested in earlier CfD, who were killed for political reasons.
Note: This does not include activists who died under mysterious circumstances, such as rumoured assassination attempts or other undetermined causes.
William Allen Simpson ( talk) 13:52, 5 January 2021 (UTC) reply
User:William Allen Simpson, would you mind condensing all of the nominations under one heading so that we can discuss them together?-- User:Namiba 15:25, 5 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete apart from the triviality, it is entirely subjective. James Cook was killed while attempting to kidnap the local leader, seems to me to be self-defense. This embeds a cultural mindset that the people encountered by white-western-explorers decided to defend themselves or their autonomy constitutes "murder" or "assassination". Carlossuarez46 ( talk) 19:18, 7 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Both murdered and assassinated indicate victimhood; no one killed in self-defense is considered to have been "murdered" or "assassinated" so the judgment of WP seems to side with western-centrism that there was no justification for the deaths of these intruders, invaders, and enslavers. I think this is thus an opinion category. Carlossuarez46 ( talk) 00:56, 10 January 2021 (UTC) reply
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Category:Murdered lawyers

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The result of the discussion was: delete, create Category:Assassinated lawyers out of purged contents. I have tried to include in Category:Assassinated lawyers only those who were killed for their work as a lawyer. I have been liberal in questionable cases, so someone else might want to take a look at the contents. At the time of the close there were 9 articles in it. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:20, 29 January 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: As suggested in earlier CfD, who were killed for professional activities.
Note: This does not include activists who died under mysterious circumstances, such as rumoured assassination attempts or other undetermined causes.
William Allen Simpson ( talk) 13:50, 5 January 2021 (UTC) reply
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People of Abruzzese descent

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The result of the discussion was: delete/merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:36, 14 January 2021 (UTC) reply
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Category:Murdered revolutionaries

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:35, 14 January 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: As suggested in earlier CfD, who were killed for political reasons.
Note: This does not include activists who died under mysterious circumstances, such as rumoured assassination attempts or other undetermined causes.
Category:Executed revolutionaries is separate.
William Allen Simpson ( talk) 13:47, 5 January 2021 (UTC) reply
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Category:Murdered animal activists

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The result of the discussion was: Withdrawn. Will split as suggested, and will be deleted as empty. (non-admin closure) William Allen Simpson ( talk) 12:14, 13 January 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Already in Category:Assassinated activists tree.
William Allen Simpson ( talk) 13:05, 5 January 2021 (UTC) reply
  • That's a problem. By the rules, we aren't supposed to prune the category before renaming. It's fairly clear that we shouldn't categorize animal activists who happened to be murdered for some other reason. There's a well-populated tree for assassinations for political reasons. Then prune....
    William Allen Simpson ( talk) 14:31, 7 January 2021 (UTC) reply
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Category:Murdered activists

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The result of the discussion was: delete; applicable articles can go in ‹The template Cat is being considered for merging.›  Category:Assassinated activists. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:34, 14 January 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Trivial intersection. No notable WP:DEFINING link between the occupation and the manner of death. Not expected as a professional hazard or qualification. There may have been many years between the occupation and the death, making the link even weaker.
Note: Sources about the death of a person will often discuss both their occupation and their cause of death. This doesn't make this intersection any more notable than a combination with other aspects often discussed in such notices, such as their number of children.
Category:Assassinated activists‎ is in a separate tree.
See also: related rationale about suicides by occupation:
William Allen Simpson ( talk) 12:56, 5 January 2021 (UTC) reply
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Category:Murdered judges

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The result of the discussion was: delete; applicable articles can go in ‹The template Cat is being considered for merging.›  Category:Assassinated judges. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:33, 14 January 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Trivial intersection. No notable WP:DEFINING link between the occupation and the manner of death. Not expected as a professional hazard or qualification. There may have been many years between the occupation and the death, making the link even weaker.
Note: Sources about the death of a person will often discuss both their occupation and their cause of death. This doesn't make this intersection any more notable than a combination with other aspects often discussed in such notices, such as their number of children.
Category:Assassinated judges is in a separate tree.
See also: related rationale about suicides by occupation:
William Allen Simpson ( talk) 12:40, 5 January 2021 (UTC) reply
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Category:Murdered philosophers

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:09, 19 January 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Trivial intersection. No notable WP:DEFINING link between the occupation and the manner of death. Not expected as a professional hazard or qualification. There may have been many years between the occupation and the death, making the link even weaker.
Note: Sources about the death of a person will often discuss both their occupation and their cause of death. This doesn't make this intersection any more notable than a combination with other aspects often discussed in such notices, such as their number of children.
See also: related rationale about suicides by occupation:
William Allen Simpson ( talk) 12:33, 5 January 2021 (UTC) reply
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Murdered writers

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:31, 14 January 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Trivial intersection. No notable WP:DEFINING link between the occupation and the manner of death. Not expected as a professional hazard or qualification. There may have been many years between the occupation and the death, making the link even weaker.
Note: Sources about the death of a person will often discuss both their occupation and their cause of death. This doesn't make this intersection any more notable than a combination with other aspects often discussed in such notices, such as their number of children.
See also: related rationale about suicides by occupation:
William Allen Simpson ( talk) 12:23, 5 January 2021 (UTC) reply
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Category:Similarity and distance measures

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 January 27#Category:Similarity and distance measures

Category:2021 births

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:30, 14 January 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: When someone of note is born this year, this category can be recreated. No need for placeholders even though it is an eventual certainty. Just have to wait until that time. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars Talk to me 02:52, 5 January 2021 (UTC) reply
FYI This happened last year, too (see WP:CfD/Log/2020 Jan 1). I'm not sure what the rush is. That one was recreated in May when there was something to populate it with. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars Talk to me 03:02, 5 January 2021 (UTC) reply
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Category:RIAJ Reco-kyō Chart number-one ringtones

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:11, 19 January 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: My how time flies...I nominated this category 10 years ago (see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2011 January 7#Category:RIAJ Reco-kyō Chart number-one singles, and I still believe that no matter how many ringtones of a song are sold, reaching number one on a ringtone chart is not a defining aspect of a song. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars Talk to me 01:20, 5 January 2021 (UTC) reply
Delete (as category creator) - Categories for #1 singles are a relic of the past. -- Prosperosity ( talk) 03:08, 16 January 2021 (UTC) reply
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Category:New Year films

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Films set around New Year. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:15, 19 January 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: The term "New year films" alienates films that have a significant portion of the movie around the subject of New Year's eve and day or a significant portion of the motion picture takes place during New Year's Eve/day. ₛₒₘₑBₒdyₐₙyBₒdy₀₅ ( talk) 01:16, 5 January 2021 (UTC) reply
I would have no objection whatsoever to the category and list both being moved to "...during..." Grutness... wha? 03:24, 6 January 2021 (UTC) reply
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Category:GVC Holdings

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:28, 14 January 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: C2D. Passotrein ( talk) 00:31, 5 January 2021 (UTC) reply
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Category:Sons of Confederate Veterans awards

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The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:27, 14 January 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT
No conceptual objection to an award by organization category but there is only one article here: Confederate Medal of Honor (Sons of Confederate Veterans). The Sons of Confederate Veterans article doesn't mention any other awards so I don't think there's any growth potential but no objection to recreating the category later if I'm wrong and it ever gets up to 5+ articles. - RevelationDirect ( talk) 00:08, 5 January 2021 (UTC) reply
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Category:Recipients of the Lal Bahadur Shastri National Award‎

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:26, 14 January 2021 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEFINING ( WP:OCAWARD)
The Lal Bahadur Shastri Institute of Management is a two-year business college in New Delhi that gives out a Lal Bahadur Shastri National Award to Indian businesspeople. Most of the winners don't have a Wikipedia article and, for those that do, the award is mentioned in passing with other honors because it's not defining. We have a Catch-22 where, when the award is defining enough for a category, they aren't notable enough for an article and, when they're notable enough for an article, the category is no longer defining. The contents are already listified here in the main article for any reader interested in the topic. - RevelationDirect ( talk) 00:08, 5 January 2021 (UTC) reply
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