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Category:U.S. Army installations named for Confederate soldiers

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Note that the contents are already in list form at List of U.S. Army installations named for Confederate soldiers. bibliomaniac 1 5 18:25, 4 June 2020 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SHAREDNAME
This category groups U.S. military bases like Fort Bragg and Fort Hood if they were named after Confederate leaders. These articles generally do mention who they were named after in passing and these names have become increasingly controversial. Nonetheless, grouping major military installations by how they were named doesn't seem defining. The contents of this category are already listified in List of U.S. Army installations named for Confederate soldiers for any reader interested in the topic. - RevelationDirect ( talk) 22:10, 23 May 2020 (UTC) reply
Oh, and I was the nominator! Should have referenced this in the nom. RevelationDirect ( talk) 22:56, 24 May 2020 (UTC) reply
Categories (apart from BLP etc) are for permanent characteristics of a topic. If something is renamed that shouldn't affect its categorization.  If something ceases to exist then that shouldn't affect its categorization except for possibly being moved down into a "former" category and being placed in a disestablishments category.  Thus, if you want "a list of current military installations of the US military [named] ..." then a list (with any date at which the installation was renamed/closed) would be more appropriate than a category. DexDor (talk) 17:19, 26 May 2020 (UTC) reply

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Category:Statues of lions with spheres

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The result of the discussion was: Upmerge Timrollpickering ( talk) 22:38, 9 June 2020 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:TRIVIALCAT
I can't accuse this category of false advertising: they are all statues of lions with spheres. But we don't have an article about a Lion with sphere as an artistic motif and this seems like too generic of an element to be defining. (Alternatively, we could dual upmerge to Category:Spherical objects.) - RevelationDirect ( talk) 21:21, 23 May 2020 (UTC) reply

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Category:Islamophobia in scholarship

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The result of the discussion was: delete. bibliomaniac 1 5 19:08, 1 June 2020 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Based on the category name, one would expect it to contain articles about incidents or aspects of Islamophobia; but instead it groups two scholars who are [allegedly] Islamophobes. This is contrary to the guidance given at the parent category Category:Anti-Islam sentiment, "It must not include articles about individuals, groups or media that are allegedly anti-Islam". (I would have no objection to keeping or recreating this category if there were articles appropriate to include in it.) Cheers, gnu 57 17:58, 23 May 2020 (UTC) reply

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Category:Armenian churches in Yerevan

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The result of the discussion was: alt merge. bibliomaniac 1 5 18:31, 4 June 2020 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge, as far as I can see the two categories have the same purpose. Marcocapelle ( talk) 15:50, 23 May 2020 (UTC) reply

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Category:Top Schools in Kenya

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The result of the discussion was: delete. bibliomaniac 1 5 19:11, 1 June 2020 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: This category is asking for trouble. It is also scarcely populated. gidonb ( talk) 15:34, 23 May 2020 (UTC) reply

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Category:Media personalities

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The result of the discussion was: procedural close to allow for a more complete nomination. bibliomaniac 1 5 18:36, 4 June 2020 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Merge or clarify the titles if there in fact is a difference. 1234qwer1234qwer4 ( talk) 14:01, 23 May 2020 (UTC) reply

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Category:Sir John Kothalawala College

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The result of the discussion was: delete. bibliomaniac 1 5 19:11, 1 June 2020 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Only the namesake article populating the cat. Doesn't seem to have more pages coming. Cossde ( talk) 13:04, 23 May 2020 (UTC) reply

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Category:Royal College, Horana

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The result of the discussion was: delete. bibliomaniac 1 5 19:11, 1 June 2020 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Only the namesake article populating the cat. Doesn't seem to have more pages coming. Cossde ( talk) 13:02, 23 May 2020 (UTC) reply

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Category:Mid laners

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus to merge, so rename. No preferred names were indicated; I will use the ones with "players" including Category:League of Legends AD Carry players as I am guessing that these are most useful. – Fayenatic London 22:34, 23 June 2020 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: "x laners", "junglers" don't mean anything to people that don't play MOBAs. "Support players" could also be confused with other games, like Overwatch or TF2. I can also see merging these into Category:League of Legends players as an alternative. Anarchyte ( talkwork) 12:57, 23 May 2020 (UTC) reply
@ Prisencolin: I meant as the categories are currently named, they mean nothing to most people. It's a rationale for renaming, not deleting. Anarchyte ( talkwork) 03:10, 26 May 2020 (UTC) reply

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Local elections in Japan

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The result of the discussion was: Merge/Delete Timrollpickering ( talk) 16:10, 12 June 2020 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: upmerge per WP:SMALLCAT, most categories contain just one article, some contain 2 or 3 articles. In an number of cases a second merge target is not needed, in those cases the article is already in Category:Mayoral elections in Japan. In case of Nishihara and Zushi a first merge target is lacking as well because there is no category for those two cities. Marcocapelle ( talk) 09:51, 23 May 2020 (UTC) reply

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Category:The World at War episodes

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The result of the discussion was: nomination withdrawn. bibliomaniac 1 5 19:12, 1 June 2020 (UTC) reply

:* Propose renaming Category:The World at War episodes to Category:The World at War

Nominator's rationale: Remove the word "episodes" from the title so as to broaden the scope in accordance with the category description which accommodates all articles related to the series. The category has considerable potential given the importance of the series in TV documentary history and of the many significant people who were actively involved. No Great Shaker ( talk) 09:29, 23 May 2020 (UTC) reply

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Category:Nazi leaders

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Nazi Party officials. bibliomaniac 1 5 18:45, 4 June 2020 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Excessively vague and undefined scope. What exactly is a "Nazi leader"? What rank do you have to be to be a "leader"? Also, it seems duplicative of Category:Nazi politicians. b uidh e 09:22, 23 May 2020 (UTC) reply
I agree with that approach. Good thinking. No Great Shaker ( talk) 09:56, 23 May 2020 (UTC) reply
Nazi politicians are currently defined as "politicians of parties who collaborated & ideologically aligned with Nazi Germany". I would recommend moving to Category:Collaborationist politicians ("collaborationism" almost always refers to wwii), purging NSDAP politicians, and then moving Category:Nazi leaders to Category:Nazi politicians. b uidh e 19:26, 23 May 2020 (UTC) reply
  • "A "politician" can be anyone who seeks to achieve political power in any bureaucratic institution." Leaders require followers, and I dont think the Nazi party often operated like that, so I agree "leaders" should go. But I'm not sure all of these people can be called politicians. Rathfelder ( talk) 09:32, 29 May 2020 (UTC) reply
What about Reich Ministry of Armaments and War Production? PPEMES ( talk) 21:19, 26 May 2020 (UTC) reply
@ PPEMES: what about it? Not everyone who heads a ministry or government department is a politician. IZAK ( talk) 17:51, 27 May 2020 (UTC) reply
Have I misread the article politician? PPEMES ( talk) 17:54, 27 May 2020 (UTC) reply

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Category:Cathedrals in Maharashtra

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The result of the discussion was: delete. bibliomaniac 1 5 19:12, 1 June 2020 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: delete per WP:SMALLCAT, there are only two articles in this category. Note that the category does not have to be merged to either of its parent categories, since both articles are already in an Indian cathedrals by denomination category and also in Category:Churches in Mumbai. Marcocapelle ( talk) 09:04, 23 May 2020 (UTC) reply

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Category:Roman Catholic cathedrals in Telangana

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The result of the discussion was: merge. bibliomaniac 1 5 18:42, 4 June 2020 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: upmerge per WP:SMALLCAT, only two articles in this category. Marcocapelle ( talk) 09:01, 23 May 2020 (UTC) reply

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Category:Roman Spain

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The result of the discussion was: merge. bibliomaniac 1 5 18:42, 4 June 2020 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge, these are two categories with the same scope. Marcocapelle ( talk) 08:31, 23 May 2020 (UTC) reply

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Category:Radio stations in insular areas of the United States

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The result of the discussion was: rename. There's seems to be a consensus supporting the use of the word "by." I'm utilizing a bit of discretion and going with Bearcat's suggestion of Category:Radio stations in the United States by insular area, for the sake of consistency with the other subcats in Category:Radio stations in the United States. There also appears to be some support for an overall merge with Category:Radio stations in the United States by state to Category:Radio stations in the United States by state or territory. While intriguing, this falls outside of the purview of this particular discussion and should probably be raised in a separate CFD. bibliomaniac 1 5 01:33, 9 July 2020 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Consistency with other category names Mvcg66b3r ( talk) 05:01, 11 May 2020 (UTC) reply

*Not Really: We don't call it Category:Radio stations by Virginia or Category:Radio stations by New Hampshire, so why this? I oppose this change. - NeutralhomerTalk • 14:10 on May 11, 2020 (UTC) • #StayAtHome

Response: Not sure "by" is similar to "to" or "in", but I disagree. "In" is used exclusively, on top of that, the stations in the "insular areas" (typically called the "US Territories") are found in Radio stations in American Samoa, Category:Radio stations in Guam, Category:Radio stations in the Northern Mariana Islands, Category:Radio stations in Puerto Rico, and Category:Radio stations in the United States Virgin Islands, not Category:Radio stations in insular areas of the United States. As such, I would like to change my vote...
(RE-!VOTE): Not Really: We don't call it Category:Radio stations by Virginia or Category:Radio stations by New Hampshire, so why this? Taking into account the above information about the categories mentioning the actual US Territories and not the "insular areas of the United States", I !vote the Category:Radio stations in insular areas of the United States be deleted and all radio stations in that category be moved to their correct state and/or territory. - NeutralhomerTalk • 01:26 on May 12, 2020 (UTC) • #StayAtHome
Because there is only one New Hampshire and only one Virginia (no offence, WV) - there are several insular areas, and the category can be subcategorised by them. Grutness... wha? 05:08, 12 May 2020 (UTC) reply
@ Grutness: I picked two states. :) Virginia was obvious, I live here. :) NH was obvious because NH=NeutralHomer. Anyway, I just don't see the point of having five US territories squished into one category. It just seems silly. Plus, even if you were to subcategorize, it would be Category:Radio stations in the Territories of the United States. But, I stand by my updated !vote above. Just leave it in the existing US Territory categories. - NeutralhomerTalk • 06:23 on May 13, 2020 (UTC) • #StayAtHome
  • Support - by insular area... is fine, and should probably be used for even more categories. Another option would be to name territorial categories as Foo in the United States by state or territory, which would also include Washington D.C. and historic territories. Place Clichy ( talk) 12:21, 13 May 2020 (UTC) reply
I think that would make more sense, personally. That's certainly what we do in Canada: rather than having one container for the provinces and a separate container for the territories, we keep them together in common "by province or territory" sets. But I think I tried or suggested that once on a similar category (can't remember which one), only to be told that it wasn't acceptable in a U.S. context because reasons — so I would never impose that now without evidence that consensus had changed. Bearcat ( talk) 12:05, 15 May 2020 (UTC) reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Would like to see some more discussion about the ultimate target name.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, bibliomaniac 1 5 03:56, 23 May 2020 (UTC) reply

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Category:Skoll Award recipients

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The result of the discussion was: delete. bibliomaniac 1 5 19:13, 1 June 2020 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Wikipedia:OCAWARD. Fuddle ( talk) 02:26, 23 May 2020 (UTC) reply

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Category:Songs written by Arko Pravo Mukherjee

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The result of the discussion was: keep. bibliomaniac 1 5 19:13, 1 June 2020 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Same category already existed named Category:Songs with lyrics by Arko Pravo Mukherjee. Then why it was created. Therefore, this category has no use. Empire AS ( talk) 06:00, 23 May 2020
Oppose. Subject is a songwriter, not a writer of lyrics AND a writer of music. Separating those 2 functions serves no benefit to reader. -- Richhoncho ( talk) 09:12, 23 May 2020 (UTC) reply
Oppose. Technically, this should be a merge request, but nevertheless, I agree with the oppose !votes above. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars Talk to me 00:23, 25 May 2020 (UTC) reply

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Category:Coke Studio songs

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The result of the discussion was: delete. bibliomaniac 1 5 19:13, 1 June 2020 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: The articles in this category appear to be older songs which were later performed by others on this Coke Studio program. Hardly a defining characteristic of these songs. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars Talk to me 00:57, 23 May 2020 (UTC) reply

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