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Category:Tudeh Party of Iran politicians
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Oppose, this is part of a category tree by occupation. Politician is an occupation (and a defining characteristic), party membership is not.
Marcocapelle (
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15:50, 16 March 2020 (UTC)reply
Oppose -- A businessman notable for other reasons should not be in a category, just because he had joined the party. mere membership casts the net too wide.
Peterkingiron (
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16:32, 17 March 2020 (UTC)reply
Oppose per Marcocapelle & Peterkingiron who correctly note that mere membership in the organization isn't what's defining nor what the tree contains.
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23:40, 17 March 2020 (UTC)reply
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Category:Biomedical engineers
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Category:History of clothing (Europe)
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The result of the discussion was:merge. There is some support for a medieval sub-cat, so after merging I will rename the page and move relevant content. –
FayenaticLondon08:57, 15 April 2020 (UTC)reply
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Category:Spelling reform
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Keep Oculi is right. If you want to reduce the number of categories, keep the inclusive one, and then its categorization will remain accurate, meaning that articles about broader orthographic reforms won’t be mischaracterized as “spelling.” —
MichaelZ. 2020-03-15 16:14 z
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Category:Track and field athletes by club
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Nominator's rationale: The contents of this tree include competitors in all forms of the
sport of athletics, not just track and field. The naming convention of the child categories is mixed and ambiguous: "athletes" and "athletics competitors". We need to make it clear that these categories are specifically about the sport of athletics, and not sport in general.
This is particularly problematic as the parent clubs are often multi-sport ones with child categories for other types of athlete (e.g.
Category:Fenerbahçe S.K.). It also does not help that some similarly named "X CLUB athletes" categories relate to all sports rather than specifically athletics (I will raise this in a separate nomination). I suggest we standardise the athletics club member tree to match the logical parent
Category:Competitors in athletics.
SFB11:39, 15 March 2020 (UTC)reply
Oppose -- It should be
Category:Athletes by club. There is an ENGVAR issue here. "Track and field" is an Americanism and might be appropriate as an ultimate parent if any of the children were Americans, but as far as I can see this is wholly or mainly a European category, where British English is more appropriate.
Peterkingiron (
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19:12, 15 March 2020 (UTC)reply
Oppose athletes do not always compete in athletics (sensu stricto). A quick google search for "great athletes" pulls up the likes of Michael Jordan, Muhammad Ali, Michael Phelps, Roger Federer, and Pele. Great athletes to be sure, but they notably compete(d) in basketball, boxing, swimming, tennis, and soccer/association football and not "athletics" of the track & field variety.
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23:46, 17 March 2020 (UTC)reply
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Category:Public Health Emergency of International Concern
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Having topic subcats doesn't make it a topic category automatically. Five out of six disease articles inside the category have been classified as Public Health Emergency of International Concern.
Brandmeistertalk11:47, 15 March 2020 (UTC)reply
Of course it does. Any subcat of a set category is necessarily a set category (assuming the correct laws of logic have been followed, which sadly is very far from the case in Wikipedia).
Oculi (
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11:54, 15 March 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep (=do not rename), or delete, Oculi and Laurel Lodged are both right. Besides the declaration is a borderline defining characteristic of an emergency, so the category might be deleted as well.
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06:20, 24 March 2020 (UTC)reply
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Category:19th-century kings of Germany
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Comments I had added him to a category as the last King of the Romans. The category was merged to the Kings of Germany category, and then deleted.
Dimadick (
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08:25, 17 March 2020 (UTC)reply
Support per nom. By the 19th century the title, if it ever really meant anything, had ceased beyond doubt to have any meaning. It could only conceivably be said to have had meaning for 2 years.
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15:42, 21 March 2020 (UTC)reply
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Kings of Germany
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That was a merge proposal, not a rename proposal. In hindsight it should have been a reverse merge and I do not remember or understand why I did not (solely) propose a reverse merge back then, but anyhow I cannot see how that merge discussion makes this speedy rename proposal controversial.
Marcocapelle (
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21:41, 8 March 2020 (UTC)reply
In the Middle Ages it is certainly not redundant. Many Kings of the Romans have not been crowned Holy Roman Emperor. In the Early Modern period it becomes much more overlapping though.
Marcocapelle (
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17:04, 13 March 2020 (UTC)reply
Comments I had created the Kings of Romans categories, and they were all deleted in August 2019. Isn't there a rule against recreating deleted categories?
Dimadick (
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08:28, 17 March 2020 (UTC)reply
The general rule is to not be disruptive. In this case I had nominated the categories as "merge or reverse merge", the discussion was closed as "merge" but in hindsight "reverse merge" would have been better. This nomination is meant to implement the latter after all. That is not disruptive.
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18:36, 17 March 2020 (UTC)reply
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Category:10th-century kings of Germany
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Category:Carolingian Roman emperors
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