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Category:Namespace
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Category:Nandurbar
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That left the head article plus 4 other articles. One of those 4 was HERA English School, which has been a wholy unreferenced sub-stub for years. So I redirected it
[1] to
Nandurbar.
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Category:Nigeria Society of Physiotherapy
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Propose Not to delete Deleting Category:Nigeria Society of Physiotherapy(
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talk |
history |
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logs) defeats the purpose of including information from developing countries in Wikipedia. Rather than delete, help improve the page. This page was created to bring knowledge and information about a professional association in a developing country. Content donated by the source of the information, the
Nigeria Physiotherapy Network — Preceding
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Category:Norman family
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Reluctantly support, renaming is obviously better than keeping, but deleting is also an option. For many of the articles it is questionable whether they belong here and a mere (historical) region does not require a tree with geography and people subcategories.
Marcocapelle (
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20:14, 29 June 2020 (UTC)reply
Reluctantly support "Land" is the German word we translate as State. Historical geography of Germany is confusing enough without giving the impression that Oldenburg is now a state. But I dont have a better suggestion at the moment and I agree we should try to sort it out.
Rathfelder (
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18:18, 30 June 2020 (UTC)reply
Just for info: "Land" in German is ambiguous, it may also mean "region" or "rural area". But admittedly it is confusing for English-speaking people.
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19:48, 30 June 2020 (UTC)reply
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Category:Old Bar, New South Wales
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Category:LGBT White American culture
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Nominator's rationale: Non-
WP:DEFINING and tendentious grouping. There isn't a single unified "LGBT White American" culture that unites on whiteness as an organizing principle in its own right, which is one of the central reasons why what's been selected for inclusion here is deeply random: apart from the category for white LGBT people that's been nominated below, the other contents here are three dolls of the Barbie or Barbie-knockoff families (one of which was merely the most famous member of a three-doll line whose other two members were Puerto Rican and Black!), a comic strip that included characters who weren't white and thus wasn't defined by the whiteness of other characters per se, and a type of social gathering that has no inherent association with whiteness at all as people of any racial background can organize or attend one. This just isn't a defined grouping of things that operate in any unified context.
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13:21, 29 June 2020 (UTC)reply
Comment: The reason I created this category is so that its parent category Category:LGBT culture in the United States doesn't directly contain many pages, and the reason I named it Category:LGBT White American culture instead of Category:LGBT European American culture is because I thought the term European American mainly referred to someone of recent European ancestry and that an unqualified or unhyphenated 'American' usually referred to someone of multi-generational European descent who's family have been in the United States of America for many generations, and because I didn't know about certain Wikipedia guidelines. I'm sorry about that, and I will rename it to Category:LGBT European American culture as soon as I can. --
PK2 (
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21:29, 29 June 2020 (UTC)reply
Oppose rename, European-American culture is only used as container categories for German-American culture, Irish-American culture etc. Not for having articles directly in it.
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19:56, 30 June 2020 (UTC)reply
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Category:LGBT White Americans
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Nominator's rationale: Category for a non-
WP:DEFINING racial classification. As always, Wikipedia does not categorize people by race -- we may sometimes categorize people by their membership in a particular culture with a defined legal, social and political context, but that's not the same thing as categorizing people by skin colour: people are categorized as African American because of African American culture, not because of "black" skin colour per se — especially since some African Americans actually look "almost white", but are still African American, and some South Asians and Polynesians are essentially also "black" in skin colour without having a claim to "African American" status. But there isn't one single unified "white American" culture or context that all of these people share, and even the definition of what is "white" in the first place isn't fixed: several of the people here are Jewish, at least one is Latino, and at least one is Iranian -- and these are groups that are not universally understood as "white" by all sources. As always, it's very rarely useful to categorize people by majoritarian identities: we don't need to categorize people for whiteness in contexts where whiteness is the "norm", we don't need to categorize for maleness in occupations where maleness is the "norm", and on and so forth. I'm proposing merger rather than deletion, however, as some of the people here were removed from the parent category in the process of adding this -- obviously the upmerge should be avoided for people who are already in other subcategories, but not everybody is.
Bearcat (
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13:13, 29 June 2020 (UTC)reply
Comment: The reason I created this category is so that its parent category Category:LGBT people from the United States doesn't directly contain many pages, and the reason I named it Category:LGBT White Americans instead of Category:LGBT European Americans or Category:LGBT American people of European descent is because I thought the term European American mainly referred to someone of recent European ancestry and that an unqualified or unhyphenated 'American' usually referred to someone of multi-generational European descent who's family have been in the United States of America for many generations, and because I didn't know about certain Wikipedia guidelines. I'm sorry about that, and I will rename it to Category:LGBT European Americans or Category:LGBT American people of European descent as soon as I can. --
PK2 (
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21:29, 29 June 2020 (UTC)reply
Support - per nom and above. Very few of the articles here mention anything about being specific to Caucasian/White American culture. The method for inclusion looks like
WP:OR and/or
WP:SYNTH.
Inter&anthro (
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03:55, 30 June 2020 (UTC)reply
Then what do you think of me renaming it to Category:LGBT European Americans or Category:LGBT American people of European descent instead? --
PK2 (
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10:24, 30 June 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete per nom; another triple intersection of race/ethnicity, sexuality, and nationality; why WP keeps categorizing on these bases either singularly or collectively is beyond me.
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18:03, 30 June 2020 (UTC)reply
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Category:East African Journalists
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Nominator's rationale: Procedural nomination. These were listed on the Speedy page for renaming to lowercase, but
Bearcat objected that "we normally categorize journalists by nationality, not by broader transnational region, and then we group the national categories in continent-level container categories. All of the journalists are already categorized by specific country, and the country categories are already parented by an
Category:African journalists category". –
FayenaticLondon10:52, 29 June 2020 (UTC)reply
Comment: I won't "vote", since my rationale in the speedy discussion was already quoted above, but I needed to add some context to the discussion. Sometime after I posted my original comment, a person who has been involved in populating the categories posted to my talk page and appeared to suggest that their actual intention was to serve as tracking categories for all articles created as part of a particular WikiProject, and that not everybody in the categories is even necessarily a journalist at all. Which means it's definitely a misfire as constituted — tracking categories go on talk pages, not articles, and their names shouldn't be inaccurate misrepresentations of the intended scope — but it does suggest that there may still be a path to salvation here, because the categories could potentially be renamed for clarity and moved to the talk pages if there's actually a useful purpose that isn't already covered off by
Category:Visibility Project (East Africa).
Bearcat (
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13:34, 29 June 2020 (UTC)reply
Comment "East Africa" used to refer to the three British colonies of Uganda, Kenya, and Tanganyika, o which seem to have been added here, the former Belgian protectorates of Rwanda and Burundi. However I am not sure that there is any real unity between these warranting a sub-continental category, but someone needs to be sure that the articles will not be orphaned.
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Category:Pumpkinhead films
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Category:Works based on Terminator (franchise)
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Nominator's rationale: "Works based on" tend to be for adaptations. It's a bit bizarre to see it used in this case here where the natural parent category for all these childcats and the film one would be "franchise name mass media".
★Trekker (
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10:46, 29 June 2020 (UTC)reply
I just don't see how "Works based on" remotly makes sense in this case. What exactly are the comics, video games etc "based on"? Most of these media are simply instalments in a larger franchise, they're not adaptations or reinterpetations for the most part.
★Trekker (
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12:33, 29 June 2020 (UTC)reply
Good idea, upmerge per Marcocapelle. Meanwhile I note that Gonnym has just nominated all the siblings/sub-cats to be renamed with "(franchise)", which is nice. RFC to follow. –
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Category:Atlantic Christian Bulldogs football
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Nominator's rationale: The university was renamed Barton College in 1990 and this year the university will reinstate football. The name should be updated to reflect this new continuity.
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Category:Art Nouveau architecture in Zemgale
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The result of the discussion was:Speedily deleted, G7, at creator's request. All other edits to the cat were minor (vandalism and reversion).
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Category:Pro Football Hall of Fame Game
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