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Nominator's rationale: I don't regularly edit in category space so I just want to be sure. I have created this to hold trauma and injury templates, so I propose renaming to an appropriate title.
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23:49, 16 July 2020 (UTC)reply
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Category:Union Namur Fosses-La-Ville players
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Non-standard Tamil television cats
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Nominator's rationale: Non-standard categories for language television which are otherwise classified under countries of origin. These cats were created by a sock whose master created many such cats and ethnic/regional POVPUSH edits including
replacing regions for countries in infoboxes which is the same pattern seen here in these cats.
Gotitbro (
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20:52, 16 July 2020 (UTC)reply
I have updated this with all subcats that need to be merged (then deleted etc). The cats that need to be merged then deleted are the ones that are classified under the country of origin or similar. The ones to be deleted have no standard counterparts in other ethnic/lang cats.
Gotitbro (
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11:26, 17 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Yes, we do have cats for other languages but not in this way and certainly not that disruptive with the language. The cats I have listed above are not supposed to be under the language label but the country of origin for example
Category:Indian television series by decade,
Category:Indian television-related lists,
Category:Indian television awards and so on, the sockpuppeteer wanted to bypass these cats so he created these POVPUSH disruptive cats just as with his edits in infoboxes and others spaces (also take a look at another Indian TV lang cat for example
Category:Hindi-language television on how these cats are supposed to be).
Procedural oppose, subcategories need to be listed as well; all nominated categories should be tagged (see
WP:CFD for instructions); in many cases a merge may be more appropriate than deletion. It would be advisable yo withdraw the nomination as is and to take a bit more time for preparing a fresh improved proposal.
Marcocapelle (
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01:32, 17 July 2020 (UTC)reply
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Marcocapelle: I have updated the nom with further classification into merge/delete rationales. The subcats under
Category:Tamil-language television series by genre have already been nominated for renaming I left a note at the
discussion there, do tell if I need to add further tag these with a CFD to here. PS: It was very tiring to do this manually is there any way to automate multiple cat tagging for CFD and listing?
Gotitbro (
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11:26, 17 July 2020 (UTC)reply
You are fast! Earlier I suggested to withdraw because I assumed fixing all of it would take you another week. Yes I know it is very tiring.
Marcocapelle (
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15:49, 17 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Generally support for consistency, for other languages we do also not have a complete tree as if this concerns a nationality. Two questions though. First, is it possible that there are any Sri Lankan shows in these categories that should not be merged to Indian categories? If that is the case I hope that someone with experience in
WP:AWB can help out with the actual implementation of the proposal. (That is not an issue for you, but for the closer of this discussion.) And second question, shouldn't e.g.
Category:1990s Tamil-language television series also be merged to
Category:Tamil-language television shows as a second merge target?
Marcocapelle (
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15:57, 17 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Almost all of these television series are from India with barely any from elsewhere (I haven't actually noticed series from others in these cats TBH, Singapore ones are already under
Category:Singapore Tamil dramas). I'll try and cleanup any categorization errors that arise after implementation. These non-standard categories were created by a heavily ethnic/regional POVPUSHing sockpuppet who created a whole host of cat trees to legitimize them and I can see why other users might have added to them. These cats are non-standard for television series, languages and keeping them is only pandering to the sockmaster who is still going strong as noted by Cyphoidbomb above as well.
Gotitbro (
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17:21, 17 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Oppose for now Whilst I agree that there is a lot of over-categorisation and there is room for rationalisation, there two sticking points. Firstly, as stated by others, there are Tamil-language TV stations in several countries outside India and some of the nominated categories may contain articles which aren't Indian. The nominator will have to go through each of the nominated categories to ensure we don't end up with mis-categorisation. Secondly, most of the categories are child/grand-child categories of
Category:Tamil-language television shows, which is a valid category as it is a child category of
Category:Television shows by language. If the nominated categories are to be deleted then their contents should also be merged into
Category:Tamil-language television shows as well.--
Obi2canibe (
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Oppose -- India is a vast country with many languages. Hindi is the principal language in the north, but Tamil belongs to a completely different linguistic group. Merging Tamil-language TV with Indian is as nonsensical as if one merged English with Arabic. There may well be room for rationalisation but this nom is completely the wrong solution.
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17:44, 25 July 2020 (UTC)reply
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Category:Template:drugs.com link with non-standard subpage
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Delete as useless. However, if it is determined to be useful, it should be renamed to a name that does not imply it is an error category. —
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21:21, 16 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Notes: I, the nom now, created this template long time ago.
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Category:Racehorses trained by Fred Rimell
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Nominator's rationale: Individual race horses aren't categorized by trainer(s). No other such category exists.
...William, is the complaint department really on
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Support/Delete - per nom, the word "hero" us too vague and subjective for a category about historical figures, for mythological figures it is fine.
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21:50, 16 July 2020 (UTC)reply
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Democratic Party (United States) events by state
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Merge all per nom. The terminology is off. I agree with the nom that these create a redundant category layer. I disagree with keeping the slightly larger categories. The question is their redundancy, not their size.--
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Category:Bad music
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Delete as a note the category has been emptied as of this edit, something of which I'm oppose while a CFD is active, but that being said a category under this title is highly problematic.
Inter&anthro (
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21:53, 16 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete. To be fair, I'll grant that the contents prior to emptying weren't actual examples of bad music per se (which is what I expected), but articles about things that aspired to be objective study of bad music, such as
List of music considered the worst and
The Rhino Brothers Present the World's Worst Records. But the problem is that's not immediately apparent from the name, which practically invites unproductive edits from POV-pushers adding this category to every individual song, album or artist who simply happens to not align with the editor's own personal tastes. It's just not a good idea. But I'd be remiss if I didn't point out that other categories for
Category:Bad literature,
Category:Bad cinema,
Category:Bad technology and
Category:Bad television were also created (some by the same creator as this, some by a different one) right around the same time — but all of them are subject to exactly the same issue as this one, and all of them should also be considered for deletion or renaming accordingly.
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Category:British television programmes by genre
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Your option (1) would involve a great deal of work. Some subcats contain mostly one-offs (
Category:British television documentaries) other subcats contain mostly series (or entirely if the subcat naming is correct). (2) would seem to me preferable but not as a speedy because the situation has not been clear.
Thincat (
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08:54, 7 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Oppose (Am I expected to comment again? The process for dealing with inappropriate speedies is very arcane.) It is only a merge because the target category was created after the speedy nomination. Sure, if one-off shows are moved to an appropriate category (not merely removed from this category) a merge would be fine but is this remotely likely to happen? As it is the current category name is descriptive of its contents and the new name would not be descriptive.
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09:56, 16 July 2020 (UTC)reply
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Template:Osteo-manip-med-stub
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Category:Cargill family
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Rename per nom as there are enough of them, and there are more in the family who are notable who haven't got an article yet. Schwede6620:44, 16 July 2020 (UTC)reply
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