Category:People associated with Ludwig van Beethoven
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Listify and delete, in order to convey the information without violating
WP:OCASSOC. A list would be more useful for navigation because it actually explains the relationship. buidhe22:27, 3 February 2020 (UTC)reply
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Category:People associated with James Joyce
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Keep What does 'upmerge' mean? You have been bulk-emptying categories of any articles about people, on the grounds that either "We do not categorise people by other people." or else that a category is "is not a people category". Now here's one where your implied need for categories containing people to be more specific has been met. This is clearly both a 'people category' and yet one that is sub-categorized below simply being an 'other people' category, i.e.
James Joyce. Yet still, you want rid. If these were upmerged to Joyce, wouldn't you then remove them altogether, as you have been doing?
Andy Dingley (
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15:50, 29 January 2020 (UTC)reply
Have you even read the guideline, which clearly explains why these kinds of categories are so problematic? This might technically be a "people category", but it is not an appropriate one for reasons explained there. Sorry for the confusion regarding the scholars and translators. I mean for them to become subcategories of
Category:James Joyce.
212.135.65.247 (
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16:03, 29 January 2020 (UTC)reply
For the most obvious connection,
Nora Barnacle. Because otherwise how will you represent her (pretty obvious) association with Joyce and his works? Or
Sylvia Beach, to avoid the "wives aren't notable" dogma. Now if you see "James Joyce" as too simplistic, then I don't, but I can see a point to that. In which case the fix is to make the category more specific, which is just what this has already done.
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16:23, 29 January 2020 (UTC)reply
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Comment -- I wonder if the solution to this may not be to listify: a list can say how the person was associated. The people should all be mentioned in the bio-article, but it is a long one, so that they do not stand out.
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17:05, 30 January 2020 (UTC)reply
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Category:People diagnosed with Huntington's disease
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Category:People diagnosed with dissociative identity disorder
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Support -- but the basis (diagnosed with) needs to be explained in a headnote. Nevertheless, in many cases, the normal BLP issues are likely to arise, so that I wonder whether the category should exist.
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17:09, 30 January 2020 (UTC)reply
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Category:Nostalgia songs
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Comment I question that this is even a defining characteristic. What makes a song about nostalgia, as opposed to longing, the past, etc.? buidhe23:48, 3 February 2020 (UTC)reply
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Category:People with color blindness
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Vaporgaze you (or I) should not close this discussion as we are involved making it hard to be impartial. Someone uninvolved can come around and close this discussion anytime now, but it may take a while. Just for clarity and to make it easier for an eventual closer, do you still support renaming the category given that the list was not moved? ‑‑
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