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Category:Tanks of Greece
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The result of the discussion was:Delete. The most convincing argument is that of
WP:NONDEFINING included in the nominator's rationale; who a piece of equipment is sold to is not part of the definition of that piece of equipment. I sympathize with the thought that this is a common category type; but the weight of the guideline (not Policy, mind you) is on the side of delete. User:Ceyockey (talk to me)
01:03, 29 March 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep. The category is not named "Tanks produced in Greece". More generally,
Category:Military equipment by country and its subcategories are commonly used in Wikipedia for equipment used, and not only produced, by countries, since most countries in the world produce only a few weapons types, and import the rest.
Constantine ✍ 20:53, 2 February 2020 (UTC)reply
Some equipment (e.g. some types of guns) has been produced (under license or otherwise) in many countries so that would be overcategorizion. DexDor(talk)21:58, 2 February 2020 (UTC)reply
Some tanks too. I would argue that country categorization doesn't make sense for American weapons produced after the 1960s. The DoD had an enormous hand in designing tanks at least until the M1 Abrams. The Pentagon does not micromanage such things now. Multinational defense companies today have further eroded the idea of an "indigenous" combat vehicle.
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23:04, 2 February 2020 (UTC)reply
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2018 sports-related lists
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Category:Transmisogyny
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Category:Transgender erotica
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Nominator's rationale:merge per
WP:SMALLCAT, currently only one article and one subcategory. A merge to the other parent category is not needed, since the content is already in another part of that tree.
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12:34, 2 February 2020 (UTC)reply
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Category:Transgender rights by region
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Nominator's rationale:upmerge per
WP:SMALLCAT, currently one article and one subcat. Merge to the other parent is not necessary, since all content is already in another part of that tree.
Marcocapelle (
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12:32, 2 February 2020 (UTC)reply
Oposse While there is only one childcat there is also a article, therefore this category is helpful, and there is likley to be similar articles created for semi-anotomous regions which are not countries.
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12:35, 2 February 2020 (UTC)reply
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Category:Animated Green Lantern films
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Category:Animated Wonder Woman films
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Category:Animated Aquaman films
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Category:Areas of traditional spread of Ukrainians and Ukrainian language
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Nominator's rationale: Similar to other irredentist categories in the same region, emphasized by
this discussion. See also recent discussions about Category:Slovene ethnic territory (
here) or Category:Bulgarian land (
here), and the
deletion discussion about Category:Ukrainian-speaking countries and territories.
Place Clichy (
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21:13, 20 January 2020 (UTC)reply
Support that rename -- The previous category of the name (which was deleted) appears to have covered countries, rather than territories. However, we should discourage the addition of parts of the former USSR that have a Ukrainian minority, as a result of the dispersal pf population to places of exile under Stalin's purges. This left Russians as an ethnic minority in Estonia and Estonians as a minority in Siberia.
Peterkingiron (
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12:40, 22 January 2020 (UTC)reply
If kept and renamed, the category needs serious purging. For example, only 0.9÷ of the population of
Novosibirsk Oblast are Ukrainians. In fact I expect only the Ukraine article itself to remain in the category, so I leave my earlier delete vote unchanged. Marcocapelle (
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07:10, 25 January 2020 (UTC)reply
Oppose I would be open to a rename, but I categorically object to the insinuation that Ukrainians (while fighting a war on their own soil) have some aggressive irredentist plot to take the Kuban, for example (an area that is certainly historically quite Ukrainian-inhabited). Frankly, that seems like propaganda out of RT or Sputnik. --
Calthinus (
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03:14, 26 January 2020 (UTC)reply
Oppose merger to "Ukrainian irredentism". Weak oppose to deletion. I agree with you that Novosibirsk should not be included. Other places like Kuban should.--
Calthinus (
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20:29, 27 January 2020 (UTC)reply
Also see
Ukrainians in Kuban. It was 55% in 1926, prior to Stalinist repression against Ukrainians and the
Holodomor. The Ukrainian identity of the region was erased by force, although majority of the population still has Ukrainian last names.--
Sanya3 (
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18:16, 10 April 2020 (UTC)reply
(from nom) Support deletion outcome, weak oppose renaming to Ukrainian countries and territories. Places in the category are not Ukrainian countries and territories, and arguments in the deletion discussion for this target category are still valid.
Place Clichy (
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20:35, 28 January 2020 (UTC)reply
Place Clichy It is entirely wrong to be treating this as a question about whether the category in question concerns "Ukrainian countries and territories". It does not. No territorial claim whatsoever is implicit. What is implicit, is a valuable mapping of the retreat of a disadvantaged and threatened language (Ukrainian) in the face of an advantaged one (Russian). This is more like analogous cases with Irish, Scottish Gaelic, Cornish, Welsh, Breton, Belarusian, Occitan, Dalmatian, etc.--
Calthinus (
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18:10, 29 January 2020 (UTC)reply
My mistake, I meant Ukrainian-speaking countries and territories. This is the renaming that has been suggested, and I'm not convinced by it. However, the current title mentions traditional spread of Ukrainians and includes the likes of
Novosibirsk Oblast, so this clearly is an imprecise gathering along imprecise criteria of places very loosely related to Ukrainians or Ukrainian.
Place Clichy (
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23:22, 29 January 2020 (UTC)reply
Many of those are no longer Ukrainian-speaking, due to policies of forced Russification during the last several centuries.--
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18:18, 10 April 2020 (UTC)reply
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Category:Cthulhu Mythos symbols
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Category:People who compete in parasports
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Alt rename to
Category:Parasports competitors, per my original declined speedy nomination. The proposed wording is ambiguous as it is not clear whether it means people who compete in parasports (e.g.
Jonnie Peacock) or sports competitors with disabilities who compete in able-bodied sport (e.g.
Shaquem Griffin) or former sports competitors who are now disabled (e.g.
Mike Utley). I think the main article
disabled sports needs a rename, either in favour of the non-ableist
parasports or
disability sport which appears to be quite a bit more common than disabled sports on google.
SFB17:54, 11 January 2020 (UTC)reply
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Category:Mamluk scholars
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Category:Films directed by Kovelamudi Surya Prakash Rao
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Nominator's rationale: Seems like an unnecessary category. It's not a unique enough criteria that it makes sense in the Transformers category structure, and "Robot characters in video games" is not so full as to need to filer out articles by franchise.
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04:37, 2 February 2020 (UTC)reply
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