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Category:Defunct ex-gay organizations

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge. MER-C 20:17, 14 March 2020 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, currently only one and two articles respectively. Marcocapelle ( talk) 22:42, 13 February 2020 (UTC) reply
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Category:LGBT clergy in Judaism

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: no consensus. Note: We don't have hierarchies for Category:LGBT religious workers or Category:LGBT religious leaders, but there is Category:LGBT clergy; and the category name matches its lead article. Presumably there is scope for further growth other than rabbis. There is nothing against a split to a new sub-cat for LGBT rabbis. – Fayenatic London 09:45, 1 April 2020 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: rename, except for one article this category only consists of rabbis. That one article Jalda Rebling (who is a hazzan) should be moved to Category:LGBT Jews. Marcocapelle ( talk) 22:07, 13 February 2020 (UTC) reply
Query What is the collective term for such officials ("rabbis, but for cantors and other officials") in Judaism? Clergy? Really? Shouldn't it be "Religious workers" or "Religious leaders"? Laurel Lodged ( talk) 18:08, 15 February 2020 (UTC) reply
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Category:Warlock films

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The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 17:26, 29 February 2020 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT. Hard to believe this will merit a category anytime soon. DonIago ( talk) 21:21, 13 February 2020 (UTC) reply
Delete Redundant to {{ Warlock series}}. Debresser ( talk) 15:06, 16 February 2020 (UTC) reply
  • This was created because there are various other Horror and Action film franchises which aren't linked together. It was created to be useful. I think we should be thinking about what makes something redundant instead of playing a game of "favorites" (ex: the Jurassic Park and Star Wars films get a category but some cult or direct to video franchise gets ignored). It's all helpful at the end of the day and just helps organize it among the other subcategories. Justbecause5 ( talk) 21:55, 17 February 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete, only three articles in this category so they can easily be interlinked in the article texts. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:54, 21 February 2020 (UTC) reply
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Category:Birds of Kazakhstan

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The result of the discussion was: Merge Timrollpickering ( Talk) 17:20, 14 March 2020 (UTC) reply
+ fish, mammals and reptiles
Nominator's rationale: Attempting to categorize species by individual countries (in which the species is found) tends to lead to both overcategorization (e.g. see Goitered gazelle in 16 geographic categories or Aelurillus dubatolovi categorized for several countries that are not mentioned in the text) and to very incomplete categories (e.g. Category:Birds of Uzbekistan contains articles about just 6 species whereas the list article gives a figure of 368 and links to hundreds of articles). Example previous similar CFD. DexDor (talk) 21:10, 13 February 2020 (UTC) reply
See Category:Endemic fauna of Central Asia and its subcats. DexDor (talk) 06:41, 14 February 2020 (UTC) reply
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Category:Rabbis in London

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The result of the discussion was: keep. I have added this into Category:Religious leaders in the United Kingdom.– Fayenatic London 08:01, 1 April 2020 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Timrollpickering reverted my manual merge so we'll go here. Both categories are too similar in scope and the merge target should be in line with the other subcats in Category:Clergy from London ミラ P 18:28, 13 February 2020 (UTC) reply
Manual merge and Delete. This category may refer to rabbis who worked in London, which is probably not a defining characteristic. Or it may refer to those who are from London, in which case it should be merged. b uidh e 19:30, 13 February 2020 (UTC) reply
I would rather expect "worked in London" to be a more defining characteristic, see also my comment below, so this is the one option that I really oppose. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:08, 14 February 2020 (UTC) reply
We have recently merged or renamed some other categories of Clergy in Foo. Rathfelder ( talk) 18:30, 13 February 2020 (UTC) reply
Category:Christian clergy by country is poorly populated. Category:Christian clergy by nationality is much fuller. I dont think it is sensible to keep both trees. Rathfelder ( talk) 12:08, 16 February 2020 (UTC) reply
  • I think this needs a wider discussion. The same issues arise in many biographical categories. Three issues - first which word we use, as both are pretty ambiguous, and second, what exactly we might mean. Territories as used by the various churches do not coincide, even with each other, and are quite different in other fields of work. And thirdly, can we manage both place or origin and place of operation without people mixing them up? Rathfelder ( talk) 15:39, 16 February 2020 (UTC) reply
  • I guess the current situation (mostly mixing up places of birth and places of occupationm with the exception of clergy) has been a compromise between editors who found place of birth (or place of growing up) much more important and other editors who found place of occupation much more important. I clearly belong to the latter group. Marcocapelle ( talk) 15:44, 16 February 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Merge -- The standard format is people from foo, which is broad enough to cover both rabbis born in London (perhaps ministering elsewhere) and those born elsewhere, but serving in a London synagogue. Peterkingiron ( talk) 18:42, 16 February 2020 (UTC) reply
  • I think on balance ambiguity is helpful. Many biographical articles say little or nothing about where people are born or grow up, and even when they do, for people who move about, as rabbis clearly do, it may not be very defining. So I think merging into the "from" categories is the best option. People can be from more than one place. Rathfelder ( talk) 10:47, 17 February 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose. The "people from" categories refer to where people were born or grew up, not where they lived or worked. -- Necrothesp ( talk) 16:12, 19 February 2020 (UTC) reply
I have just worked through 3000 articles in People from London and I can report that the category related to where people were born, grew up, lived, worked and died pretty much equally, just like all the similar categories. To say a person is "from" somewhere is completely ambiguous. Any effort to standardise the meaning is doomed to failure unless it uses different words. And actually I think it's fine the way it is. Different sorts of people are defined as "from" somewhere in a variety of ways. Rathfelder ( talk) 19:05, 23 February 2020 (UTC) reply
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Category:Wikipedia investigations

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The result of the discussion was: Merge ( WP:NAC). DexDor (talk) 09:04, 1 March 2020 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: This was created contemporaneously with Wikipedia:Pageview investigation board. Really, most Wikipedia processes are investigations of some kind, and therefore this category is too broad to be useful. Bsherr ( talk) 18:16, 13 February 2020 (UTC) reply
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Category:North Korea–United States proxy conflict

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The result of the discussion was: speedy deleted as requested by the author. kingboyk ( talk) 13:11, 14 February 2020 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: This editor has created this category, while trying to imply that the Houthis are proxies of North Korea, something that is not supported by reliable sources. SharʿabSalam▼ ( talk) 01:33, 13 February 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Speedy Delete as soon as possible per nom and creator request. Just because the Houthis received weapons from North Korea, it does not mean they are proxy group of North Korea (and I agree with Sharab). There are not a lot of proxy wars between North Korea and the United States. The creation of this category is the result of my huge misunderstanding about the Houthis being a North Korean proxy. SpinnerLaserz ( talk) 02:02, 13 February 2020 (UTC) reply
  • @ SpinnerLaserz: to get it speedily deleted you'd better blank the category page, then type {{Db-self}} and save the page. Marcocapelle ( talk) 09:33, 14 February 2020 (UTC) reply
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Category:Gondor

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The result of the discussion was: Upmerge Timrollpickering ( Talk) 19:43, 20 March 2020 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Only the parent article is not a redirect. The subcategory is already in Category:Middle-earth rulers, where it likely belongs. This category isn't going to get any larger, either. Hog Farm ( talk) 01:20, 13 February 2020 (UTC) reply
Delete per nom. b uidh e 02:55, 13 February 2020 (UTC) reply
Update Since all the articles are already in that category, for all practical purposes we could delete, just that formally, I'd prefer to close this as "upmerge". Debresser ( talk) 15:00, 16 February 2020 (UTC) reply
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Category:Cancer angiogensis inhibitors

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Deleted per creator's request Liz Read! Talk! 04:05, 13 February 2020 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Mistakenly created Lfstevens ( talk) 00:55, 13 February 2020 (UTC) reply


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