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Category:Films with screenplays by Douglas Adams
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Category:Rebecca Black songs
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Nominator's rationale: For the simple fact this nominated category exists when its default parent category doesn't. However, unless this move occurs, I'm not certain a "
Rebecca Black" category would be able to exist per
WP:SMALLCAT, considering the nominated category seems to be the only existent "Rebecca Black" category.
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Category:Fictional villains
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Oppose Just because it is a bad idea to call a real person a villain, doesn't mean that it will not attract such content. And I also contend that calling Adolf Hitler a villain is not an an ATTACK either. If there is to be only one category, it should be called "Fictional villains" to address the issues you brought up with real life villainy. --
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Comment, if I understand nominator well, the proposal is actually to convert
Category:Villains to a category about fictional villains. That may work, but unlike a normal merge it also requires moving the content of the category page (header and parent categories) to the target. Also, leaving a redirect would be recommendable.
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Category:Burials at Arskoe Cemetery
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Keep - seems to be a major cemetery - I've found a few more notables buried there. I've created a stub for it from the Ru-Wikipedia text. My Russian is pretty poor, so any corrections are welcome.
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Category:American television series by production location
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Category:Ninja video games
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Category:Barack Obama in video games
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Nominator's rationale: This category violates
WP:NONDEF in that none of the articles in it are actually defined by their inclusion of Obama. And as far as I know, there are no games specifically *about* Obama that are of note. ZXCVBNM (
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Category:Skeleton video games
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Category:Samurai video games
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Category:Television Channel
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Category:Disney depictions of women
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: This discussion was mistakenly listed in the July 29th log.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, bibliomaniac1502:33, 10 August 2020 (UTC)reply
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Category:E1 Music albums
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Nominator's rationale: The target page for the record label E1 Music was moved to
Entertainment One Music a long time ago. E1 and Koch Music are former names of the company. The remaining subcategories also need to be moved over. ≫
Lil-Unique1-{
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Comment. I would directly oppose, but as these sort of changes have gone through before and created a whole mess at 'records by label' it would be churlish to oppose this particular change. However, the label a record is first issued on does not change because the record company has changed it's name, been sold or otherwise. 'Record label' has a distinct meaning not related to 'record company.' Nor, while I am ranting on the subject, should the record label be shown as the record company because the label does not have an article. Such assumptions fail
WP:CATDEF and
WP:CATV. The whole scheme needs review, not just this one nomination. --
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Category:Virginia Tech Radio Network
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Nominator's rationale: Non-defining characteristic of member articles. No other college sports radio network in the US has a devoted category. If kept, C2D to "Virginia Tech Sports Network".
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Economy by period
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:Nominator's rationale: to more accurately describe the scope of these categories, and to remove the inconsistency between the years and the decades/century. The word "history" is superfluous, because the use of a date is sufficient to indicate whether it's history.
Until 2016, the year, and century categories were named "[period] in economics". Then per
CFD 2016 June 5, the century categories were renamed to "nth-century economic history". So far as I can see, the decade categories have always used the format "YYY0s economic history".
The
CFD 2016 June 5 nomination correctly identified the problem, but adopted the wrong solution. The rationale by
PanchoS is sound:
Economics is just the science about the economy, including various
economic theories, economic terminology, and scholarly professions. Everything these categories however contain isn't about economics (the science) but about the object of science: the economy, which also includes industries, businesses, the national economies, trade and various institutions
. I entirely agree with that, and summarise it as:
Economy: the stuff that's actually happening, e.g. products, company formations, trade, business mergers, construction, banking, trade deals, workers rights, trade, labour disputes.
Economics: the study of the economy, e.g. economic theory, statistics research, publications, academic institutions, etc
Unfortunately, the
2016 CFD missed the logic of its own analysis. The flaw is that
economic history is also the study of the economy:
economic history is the study of economies in the past.
So in 2016, we renamed from one form of study to another.
The solution is to just call it "economy", as we do with all other topics, e.g.
I can see that meaning intended by the 2016 CFD was that e.g.
Category:19th-century economic history would mean "history of the economy of the 19th century" ... but the adjectival form actually refers to the work of economic historians in the 19th century, such as
David Ricardo or
Karl Marx. That's not what the grouping we want.
The word "history" is superfluous, because the date denotes it as history. We have:
You phrased it well but came to a different conclusion. We want to have (history of) the stuff itself (i.e. economic history) rather than (history of) the study thereof (i.e. history of economic thought). I do agree there is a tautological effect, the question is whether that outweighs the fact that economic history is the common name. Happy to hear what others think of it.
Marcocapelle (
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17:55, 10 August 2020 (UTC)reply
Oppose -- Economic history is rather broader than economics. I am an economic historian, but am not an economist. Economic history is not only the history of economics but also the economics of history. The scope is liable to cover a good deal that is about the history of commerce without being explicitly "economics".
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12:41, 16 August 2020 (UTC)reply
Oppose We do have some inconsistency in category naming, but I don't think this proposal's attempts to resolve it makes sense. The biggest problem is that in standard English the word "economy" is almost never used without an article, usually the definite article "the", so the categories proposed here look like grammatical errors. I am comfortable that many category trees use the word that means "the study of a thing," where the word for the "actual thing" would be technically more accurate: so we have, for example
Category:2020 in medicine, not
Category:2020 in disease;
Category:2020 in biology not
Category:2020 in life. So
Category:2020 in economics is not significantly worse than
Category:2020 in the economy by enough to warrant this change.
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Category:Fictional shield fighters
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Nominator's rationale: This is a very narrow category consisting of three versions of Captain America and a mixed bag of five other characters often (but not always) depicted as carrying a shield as part of their armament. However, I don't think this is a defining characteristic for any characters other than Cap.
BD2412T 00:01, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
BD2412T00:01, 10 August 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete - Besides Captain America, the others seem to have weapons other than a shield so it does not seem to be a defining characteristic for any others.
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