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Category:People executed by arrows
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Delete -- The death of the one person listed sounds more like an assassination than an execution. The article does not in fact mention how he died.
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Category:American short story writers of Lebanese descent
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Category:American short story writers of Syrian descent
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Category:American autobiographers of Syrian descent
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Nominator's rationale: This is a small and non-notable triple intersection by nationality, gender, and profession. I nominated it for deletion rather than merger because the subject is already in the appropriate sub-categories.
TM14:28, 5 April 2020 (UTC)reply
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Category:American autobiographers of Jordanian descent
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Nominator's rationale: This is a small and non-notable triple intersection by nationality, gender, and profession. I nominated it for deletion rather than merger because the subject is already in the appropriate sub-categories.
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Category:Indian women biographers
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The result of the discussion was:upmerge. The other categories suggested will have to be nominated separately; I think individual discussion needs to take place for those specific ones, at least. bibliomaniac1505:53, 25 April 2020 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: Dual upmerge. This is a non-notable triple intersection by nationality, gender, and profession.
TM14:22, 5 April 2020 (UTC)reply
Comment: At the moment the nominated categories seem to be working to diffuse that one. Should most of its sub-cats be added to the nomination for upmerging as non-notable triple intersections? The Indian hierarchy does have more genre-specific subcats than any other nationality-based parts of
Category:Women non-fiction writers. –
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Post-closure notes: the merge to Indian biographers should have been done manually, since all but one of the merged pages were already in a diffusing sub-cat by century. I have also merged the members of both categories to Indian women non-fiction writers. –
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Note@
Naraht: Combined these two nominations.
North American Interfraternity Conference is the main article which was boldly moved by the nominator outside of an RM and most of the contents have already been moved. Thank you for bringing this nomination here for consensus; in the future please hold off on moving contents prior to CFD.
RevelationDirect (
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15:42, 5 April 2020 (UTC)reply
Support both, i.e. delete the obsolete hyphenated versions in favor of the non-hyphenated ones, to reflect current convention. @
Naraht: your out-of-process move has needlessly delayed this rename. The more appropriate process would have been to rename the article, noting the orthography change in edit comments or on Talk, and then to request speedy under C2D. --
choster (
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18:38, 10 April 2020 (UTC)reply
choster Will keep that in mind. I considered it minor and I had more or less completed the move myself using AWB to move mentions of the organization, the category and the template when the category moves were bulk reverted. (I wonder if marking old and new cats with Underconstruction would have stopped the bulk reversion. After *that*, the only clean way to move it was here.
Naraht (
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12:36, 11 April 2020 (UTC)reply
FYI, the bulk reversion was meant to force you here to avoid out of process moves and under construction wouldn't have helped. Doing an
WP:RM on the main article followed by a
WP:C2D on the categories would have been optimal but that's water under the bridge. Live and learn!
RevelationDirect (
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01:04, 12 April 2020 (UTC)reply
The category for current members is (currently)
North-American Interfraternity Conference. Each of the Greek Umbrella organizatons uses a category equal to the name of the group. for example
Category:National Pan-Hellenic Council, whether or not all of those should be changed to [[Category:Members of ... is, to me, a completely completely different discussion.
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Category:Wars named after non-human animals
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Nominator's rationale: We don't normally categorize things by characteristics of their name (or one of several names) -
someexampleCFDdiscussions. This category also has other problems (some of the articles aren't about actual wars, some aren't actually named after animals...). Note: I have listified the category. DexDor(talk)13:10, 5 April 2020 (UTC)reply
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People from Sheffield
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Support per nom. Rare are the instances of when a neighbourhood is a defining characteristic.--
TM17:02, 5 April 2020 (UTC)reply
Oppose The present city of Sheffield formerly consisted of a number of distinct townships (including Brightside and Ecclesall), some of which were not in the parish of Sheffield (including Ecclesfield). Some of the categories certainly need merging, but this should not be done wholesale.
Peterkingiron (
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18:09, 5 April 2020 (UTC)reply
Oppose The editors of the relevant articles thought the places defining. There is a well established pattern of subcategories for cities. Neighbourhoods in cities are just as defining as villages in rural areas. However the Sheffield biographies seem to mention neighbourhoods much less than is usual in other cities. Agree some should be merged, which I will do.
Rathfelder (
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20:49, 5 April 2020 (UTC)reply
Being born somewhere is not defining. Most of these are categorised by their place of birth. I myself have lived in 6 of these areas in Sheffield; I am not 'from' any of them. (I was born in Cambridge; I am certainly not from Cambridge as we left when I was 1.)
Oculi (
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10:58, 6 April 2020 (UTC)reply
Oppose - seems to be standard practice with large cities, especially those which have been expanded through merger of former separate areas.
Grutness...wha?02:57, 6 April 2020 (UTC)reply
Almost all the places you have listed were not part of Sheffield until after the Industrial Revolution at the earliest, and less than 100 years ago in one or two cases.
Grutness...wha?15:21, 6 April 2020 (UTC)reply
If I understand correctly, most of these places became part of Sheffield in 1843. Then let's move all articles of people born since to the Sheffield category. This will empty most of these categories, I guess.
Marcocapelle (
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19:25, 6 April 2020 (UTC)reply
The same could be said of many cities. Cities expand and engulf the surrounding villages. But I cant see why we would treat Sheffield differently to all the other cities and their component districts.
Rathfelder (
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22:19, 9 April 2020 (UTC)reply
If you really want to remove all the categories for people from suburbs of cities across the world that needs a much wider discussion.
Rathfelder (
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09:57, 21 April 2020 (UTC)reply
Sheffield is probably large enough that it makes sense to at least have some suburbs with people from categories for example
Category:People from Ecclesfield has 25 articles and is currently a CP. The problem indeed might be that there aren't enough people to merit a category for some or boundaries are hard to define. There are some boundaries listed
here but note that since 1974 the former CB has been unparished so only ward boundaries exist and they tend not to be stable for long. Crouch, Swale (
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18:07, 10 April 2020 (UTC)reply
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Category:Commercial spaceflight
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Category:SpaceX suborbital prototype rockets
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Category:Years of the 21st century in Dubai
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Delete -- Additionally there is a lot to be said for merging the entire centuries tree, the only early content being
Persian Gulf Residency, which will relate to the whole region, being British India's diplomatic mission there.
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15:23, 29 March 2020 (UTC)reply
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Category:Steamboats built at Dockton, Washington
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There are no other city of construction subcategories under
Category:Steamboats which would still be fine if these two locations were known for specifically building steamships. Neither one was though: Dockton had
one significant shipbuilder who built a variety of types of ships and Tacoma was a major shipbuilding center where, again, a variety of ship types were built. This doesn't seem like a viable category tree to start because steamboat construction was very decentralized and we have articles on steamboats built in dozens of cities/towns just in Washington state alone. The
Dockton, Washington article already listifies the first category and the second category will remain categorized under Tacoma. -
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