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Category:Fishing companies in Australia
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Nominator's rationale: per
WP:SMALLCAT. This categorisation scheme was started in March 2017, and abandoned the same day with only only two articles in the whole tree. i.e. the two pages in
Category:1861 in Montgomery, Alabama.
Montgomery isn't a huge city (2010 population = 205,764), so I don't know how much content there is per decade. So it would be much better to start by populating the century categories, and divide them by decade if there is enough content to do so with crating a forest of SMALLCATs. --
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23:34, 22 September 2019 (UTC)reply
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Category:Greater Croatian ideology
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The result of the discussion was:Rename as proposed. While I usually wouldn't be comfortable closing a discussion with two plausible alternatives with little discussion of the second, but since it has been a relist and 20 days without any discussion I don't believe keeping this open will do any good. I'm consequently closing in favor of the original proposal for which there is consensus is preferable to the status quo. There is no consensus with regards to the Greater Croatia (ideology) alternative and no predjudice against starting a new discussion on this topic.
(non-admin closure) --
Trialpears (
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07:58, 14 October 2019 (UTC)reply
Comment - My only problem with this is that in case of Croatian and/or Serbian irredentism, scholarship in Serbo-Croatian as well as in English rarely if ever talks about it by labeling it "irredentism", instead we can almost exclusively read about "Greater Serbian/Croatian ideology" - in Serbo-Croatian, actually, scholarship refers to all case of irredentism as "Greater - Albanian, Bulgarian, Greek, Serbian, Croatian - ideology".--
౪ Santa ౪99°22:07, 22 September 2019 (UTC)reply
There would probably be a risk of confusion with geographical concepts, and also the risk of hot heads adding articles about every single tract of land in the Balkans and around to categories so named.
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16:46, 23 September 2019 (UTC)reply
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Nominator's rationale: Category description and parent categories seem to imply that this category is specific to American people of Puerto Rican descent, not people in any country.
Place Clichy (
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09:47, 4 October 2019 (UTC)reply
Upmerge. In reality this shouldn't exist, because the intersection of nationality with LGBTness with country of ancestral origin is a triple intersection and not a defining characteristic — similar categories do not and rightly should not exist for any other possible combination of those attributes on earth. No "American LGBT people of Japanese descent", no "German LGBT people of Turkish descent", no "Canadian LGBT people of Danish descent", and on and so forth. But even though I disagree with the need for it it, I feel it necessary to provide some background on the actual story behind this: Puerto Rico's status as a territory of the United States means that "Puerto Rican X" categories often collect mainland Americans with Puerto Rican heritage even if they've never personally lived in Puerto Rico at all — whether they should or not is another question that's beyond the scope of this discussion to review, but as it stands they often do. But in this case, the fact that the category for LGBT people from Puerto Rico is named "LGBT people from Puerto Rico" rather than "Puerto Rican LGBT people" precludes using it that way — so the creator of this argued that we had to create a special Puerto Rico-specific exemption from the otherwise universal consensus against intersecting LGBTness with ethnicity, so that mainlanders of Puerto Rican ancestry could still contain some form of categorization for the LGBT-meets-Puerto-Rico axis to match to the way "Puerto Rican X" categories were getting used. And because of his persistence in arguing that Puerto Rico had special needs that required a special compromise, past attempts to delete this have always landed "no consensus" rather than as clear deletes or keeps. And furthermore, it's always created the problem that editors thought it justified other "LGBT people of X descent" categories for other ethnicities too — which is another reason why Puerto Rico doesn't really need a completely unique exemption from the fact that it's not considered a defining characteristic for anybody else. We have always consistently deleted "LGBT people of X descent" every time it's ever been tried for any other ethnicity but Puerto Rican — entirely because of Lawrlafo's persistence in manning the ramparts every time it was challenged, this is the only one for which we've struggled to actually establish a consensus against it. I wasn't convinced by Lawrlafo's arguments in 2010, and I'm no more convinced by them in 2019 — this should still be upmerged rather than simply being renamed.
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Category:Faculty by university in Europe
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Comment - format changed for better readability. Removed an additional nominator comment for national categories: category contains college academics.
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08:37, 4 October 2019 (UTC)reply
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Category:American Jews of Latin European descent
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Nominator's rationale: These categories are not fitting the current "people by descent" category as there are no Latin Europeans, Germanic Europeans or Baltic Europeans parents - and there probably should not be. They are intersections of descent and ethnicity on arbitrary lines (why in the world would
American people of Belgian-Jewish descent be of Latin European descent but
American people of Luxembourgian-Jewish descent be of Germanic European descent?). Such intersections should be set up with great care and only when most necessary according to
WP:OCEGRS. Suggest upmerge to the only parent.
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07:33, 4 October 2019 (UTC)reply
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