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In all cases, I'm proposing that we rename these categories to use "ancient" instead of "Ancient". Also, "Category:Hyksos Cities in Ancient Egypt" should become "Category:Hyksos cities in ancient Egypt"; I can't see a reason to capitalise "Cities". This is building on past discussions of "Ancient Greek" categories (
test nomination and
further nomination), in which it was held that "ancient" is more appropriate than "Ancient" for categories referring to the culture in general. I've skipped a few "Ancient Greek" and one "Ancient Egyptian" categories that refer to the language, given the comments in the previous discussion about "Ancient Greek" being appropriate for the language.
Nyttend (
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21:09, 1 September 2018 (UTC)reply
Support ancient Egypt and ancient Greece. However I am a bit hesitant about Ancient Rome: changing it to "ancient Rome" may suggest the ancient city of Rome, rather than the Roman Republic and the Roman Empire.
Marcocapelle (
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21:19, 1 September 2018 (UTC)reply
Support. I can't see any need to capitalize "ancient" (or "cities" in the Hyksos example). Could "ancient Rome" be ambiguous? Perhaps, but it's widely used this way, and I doubt there's much risk of surprise or confusion if someone's first thought on seeing the title is that it refers to the city alone. Just as importantly, I doubt whether or not "ancient" is capitalized makes any difference to this ambiguity; if you read it ambiguously when it's not capitalized, you probably will when it is.
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22:58, 1 September 2018 (UTC)reply
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Category:Entering Heaven alive
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Keep. The concept is well defined (it's not hard to decide whether an article belongs), it's neutral (nobody disputes the idea that the ascension of Jesus is related to the concept of entering heaven alive), and the name matches the concept quite fine; and "too ridiculous" also isn't a reason to delete a category.
Nyttend (
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21:44, 1 September 2018 (UTC)reply
Yes, please. The current wording "Entering Heaven Alive" is idiotic (what? who? enters heaven alive). Even "Mythological characters said to enter heaven alive" would be a better, and clearer, bet. --
regentspark (
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17:29, 3 September 2018 (UTC)reply
Keep I just fail to see
User:RegentsPark's problem with the current name. For the moment, it matches the main article, and is neutral. Ascension has too specific a meaning (which why Mary has an "Assumption" in Catholicism), and is too closely associated with Christianity.
Johnbod (
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01:06, 5 September 2018 (UTC)reply
Keep but purge. 1 Thessalonians mentions the return of Christ and Christians being caught up to meet him in the air, but the book is not just about that. Muslims claim that Mohammed entered heaven from the Dome of the Rock, but that was the venue for this (and perhaps only in dream). The Dome did not enter heaven itself. However, Enoch, Elijah, and Jesus all ascended to heaven alive. "Translation" refers to a saint's death. I will not enter into discussion of Mary save to say that I do not believe the Catholic teaching on this, any more than I believe Muslim or Greek teachings on this. However the beliefs exist and many hold (or held) them, so that the category must exist. I would not oppose a rename, but any name chosen may adversely affect the breadth of the category, due to the nuances in the concept.
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16:33, 6 September 2018 (UTC)reply
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Category:Ottoman period in Syria
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Nominator's rationale:rename per main article
Ottoman Syria. Moreover, the current category name wrongly suggests that the category is limited to the area of the current republic of
Syria while in fact the Ottoman province of Syria is intended as the scope of the category - covering the entire
Levant.
Marcocapelle (
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12:55, 1 September 2018 (UTC)reply
Rename; you make a solid argument, and I suppose that the first rename wouldn't have happened had you mounted this argument as a reason to pull this category out of the batch nomination.
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21:12, 1 September 2018 (UTC)reply
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Category:Tyrees A. Lamptey
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Category:Gosanke
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Category:People born at sea
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Keep; every biography should have a category for "Born in place X" or "Place of birth unknown", and deleting this category would make it look like all the articles about born-at-sea people were lacking a birthplace category. Meanwhile, how is birth at sea any less defining than birth in a specific city?
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Category:Mito branch
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Category:Owari branch
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Category:People from Wilmerding, Pennsylvania
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Category:Basketball at the European Youth Olympic Days
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Comment if I understand correctly, European Youth Olympic Days was the old name of the event and European Youth Summer Olympic Festival is the new name. @
Pelmeen10: as the nominator you should provide a clear rationale for your proposal.
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05:24, 29 August 2018 (UTC)reply
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Category:Sugar substitutes
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Nominator's rationale: There is a fundamental problem here. The article on sugar substitutes uses that name even though many sweeteners are high in sugar and thus are replacing just "table sugar", while others are 0 calorie sweeteners or very low in sugar and some are naturally occurring while others are artificial. Syrup is not even mentioned in the main article, but yet it is a sweetener.
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00:46, 21 August 2018 (UTC)reply
It doesn't have to preclude, but it may. Because it remains to be seen whether there is going to be consensus in article space about this issue.
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