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Category:Characters created by J. J. Abrams
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Nominator's rationale: How do we know that Abrams created every character in Lost, Fringe, and Alias? He may have co-created the shows and served as an Executive Producer but these shows lasted for years and Abrams most likely had less input as they went on. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me19:03, 6 November 2018 (UTC)reply
Delete per nom's rationale... seems like a relatively impossible property to verify. The category is probably more accurately "Characters from works created by J. J. Abrams", which is of dubious value. —
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Category:Spain under-20 international footballers
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Support – the existence of this category would lead to hundreds more unnecessary ones being created for every country's under-16s, under-17s etc. etc.
Jellyman (
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07:45, 7 November 2018 (UTC)reply
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Inter&anthro: as explained, the long-establish ed convention for youth categories is to have the most senior youth level (either U20 or U21, depending on confederation - but for Spain, in UEFA, that is U21 and not U20) and then just 'youth' for everything below that. This category has been created and populated in error.
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Category:Wrocław University of Technology
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Weak support, initially I was planning to recommend an RM on the article, but this university advertises itself in English under the extended name including Science
[1].
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21:42, 6 November 2018 (UTC)reply
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Category:Performing groups disestablished in the 2010s
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Category:NASCAR teams established in 2005
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Category:Dead (band) albums
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Nominator's rationale: Albums category for an artist without an article. The entries here are two split albums that redirect to another notable band but with no info about the releases or this band. I removed the other parent categories except for "Albums by artist" since no sourceable info exists on the band in the English Wikipedia to be able to place it in genre/nationality categories. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me04:55, 6 November 2018 (UTC)reply
Comment - I've been going through this editor's contributions and a dozen empty categories they have created. There are also plenty of ones that only contain one or two redirects. There are also categories like this for albums by bands who do not have their own Wikipedia articles. Dig into their contributions for new categories and you will find other ones similar to this one. I've left a note for the editor and he's been quite active this week so maybe he will offer a response and rationale. LizRead!Talk!04:45, 8 November 2018 (UTC)reply
Delete the category, as there is not an actual article about any of this band's recordings. However, I would not delete the redirects, as it is possible that somebody might search for them, or link to them from an article on a participating band/musician. –
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Category:Gut (band) albums
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Nominator's rationale: There are 17 redirected album titles in this category (and only those titles), all of which redirect to the main article,
Gut (band), which offers little to no info about these albums beyond a discography section. Categorization of redirects can be useful but not when the entire set within the category point to the same article with nothing to say about those topics. As a reader, I find it extremely frustrating when clicking through such categories. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me02:22, 6 November 2018 (UTC)reply
Delete the category for the reasons stated by the nominator. The large number of redirects for album titles is a bit ridiculous, but they may all be valid search terms for whoever is interested in this band. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (
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Delete the category, as there is not an actual article about any of this band's recordings. However, I would not delete the redirects, as it is possible that somebody might search for them, or link to them from an article on a participating band/musician. –
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Category:Organisations based in the European Union
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Nominator's rationale: This is a rather tentative suggestion, but I think the point of this category is not about where the organisations are based, but about how they relate to the EU - and this would include a lot of lobbying, thinktank and commercial organisations.
Rathfelder (
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15:27, 18 October 2018 (UTC)reply
There are actually only two articles in the category at the moment, but I've just found
Category:Cross-European advocacy groups which I think is the same general idea, although there isn't an article to tell me what exactly is meant. I don't like its title because I don't know what it is supposed to mean, and of course even the term European is ambiguous. There is also
Category:Pan-European trade and professional organisations. Maybe Pan-European and Cross-European mean the same? So I think we need at least a category relating to the EU, and perhaps another one (or more?), for organisations relating other, wider, conceptions of Europe. I guess most of the organisations I'm thinking about are based in Europe - in fact most are based in Brussels - but where they are based in not the basis of the category.
Rathfelder (
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15:55, 21 October 2018 (UTC)reply
That is for official organisations which are part of the EU. There are large numbers of lobbying and advocacy groups and the like which dont belong there.
Rathfelder (
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08:54, 22 October 2018 (UTC)reply
For sure advocacy groups don't belong there. But do they belong in a EU category at all? Can you give some examples of advocacy groups that exclusively lobby within EU government bodies?
Marcocapelle (
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19:08, 22 October 2018 (UTC)reply
Repurpose. There's definitely scope for a category related to the EU, but also scope for one for organisations based in the EU. The latter should merely be a container category for "Organisations based in France", "Organisations based in Finland", etc., while the former should contain the organisations themselves.
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15:55, 6 November 2018 (UTC)reply
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Nominator's rationale:split, the word 'classical' is normally used only for the Greek and Roman civilizations as such (besides
Classical Greece preceded
Hellenism), I have never seen it been used for countries in the Middle East in the Hellenistic or Roman era. Since we already have a Greek and Roman category in this case, the content can simply be dispersed. This is a follow-up on
this earlier discussion.
Marcocapelle (
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19:39, 23 October 2018 (UTC)reply
Oppose - while Israel in the Roman era may imply to the Hasmonean Kingdom and Palestine in the Roman era may imply Roman Palaestina, the State of Palestine in the Roman era is a completely anachronistic notion. I do not like anachronistic categories. Period.
GreyShark (
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07:29, 26 October 2018 (UTC)reply
Israel/Palestine was first occupied by the Syrians (Seleucids), then independent, and finally conquered by the Romans. Having a parent category for these three very different periods (other than an Ancient parent category) makes little sense.
Marcocapelle (
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06:55, 29 October 2018 (UTC)reply
These alternatives wrongly conflates a "by region" tree structure with a "by modern state" tree structure. The two should be kept separate. This nom is about the region. Open separate discussions for the "by state" questions please. They also wrongly conflate different time periods when entirely different cultural pressures were brought to bear on the regions under discussion.
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10:41, 1 November 2018 (UTC)reply
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Category:Classical Syria
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This suggests it was a single era, which is factually incorrect. In the Hellenistic period Syria was not Greek, it was an independent country and just had Greek cultural influences. That changed entirely when the Romans occupied the country.
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Category:Wikipedia categories that should not contain articles
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The exact meaning of this category is unclear, but it certainly isn't the same thing as container categories. For example, categories for dab/talk pages should not contain articles but are not necessarily container categories. DexDor(talk)20:25, 6 October 2018 (UTC)reply
Comment: I doubt that this category is actually helpful and would lean towards deletion, but a better rationale might be helpful.
Catrìona (
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20:09, 6 October 2018 (UTC)reply
Delete as afaics this category is confusing without being useful for anything. It's confusing because it's not clear whether it's supposed to be for categories that shouldn't contain articles or only for articles that shouldn't directly contain articles. This category doesn't (e.g. from looking at inlinks to it) appear to be being used in any processes. I haven't found this category useful (e.g. when creating
User:DexDor/NSCat). DexDor(talk)20:34, 6 October 2018 (UTC)reply
Comment - it is certainly confusing.
Category:Set categories (which should be enormous but isn't) should be removed. There are categories of images and audio files which should be added. No idea whether it could be useful.
Oculi (
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01:54, 7 October 2018 (UTC)reply
See my comment above re what's unclear about the category scope. Would you be in favour of similar "should not contain" categories (rather than or instead of lists) for dab pages, templates, talk pages, user pages ...? DexDor(talk)22:03, 10 November 2018 (UTC)reply
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Category:People associated with oil shale
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Comment. Not sure if
Alexander Carnegie Kirk,
Alexander Selligue and
Fredrik Ljungström (not included in this category but should be) will fit in this category any more if renamed. They are engineers who developed shale oil extraction technology, not oil shale researchers. Renaming will exclude also oil shale industrialists and business persons if relevant articles would be created in the future.
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17:52, 22 October 2018 (UTC)reply
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