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Comment for clarity are these groups of ethnic Armenians or of Armenian nationals (as opposed to nationals of Turkey, the Ottoman Empire, Russia, the Soviet Union, or other countries)? If the former, it should be so titled in keeping with the distinction between
Category:Armenian people and
Category:Ethnic Armenian people; if the latter it should be purged by all groups based outside Armenia.
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This distinction is absurd. Since when is the word Armenian used only in relation to the Armenian state, which has existed only since 1991? Everywhere outside Wikipedia, Armenians are called Armenians, not Ethnic Armenians. It's the
Armenian Genocide, not the
Ethnic Armenian Genocide, and the
Armenian Church has never been called the
Ethnic Armenian Church despite centuries of existence outside any Armenian state. I know there is a whole hierarchy of alledged Ethnic Armenian people in our category structure, I am pulling my hair since the day it was carved out of the perfectly fine Armenian people or People of Armenian descent. It's like saying that
Dante Alighieri was not Italian but Ethnic Italian, or that
Goethe was not German but Ethnic German, because no state called Italy or Germany existed in their time.
In the present case, terrorism linked to the Armenian cause has existed, and the fact that members of such groups were citizens of Soviet Armenia or independent Armenia is not relevent. There were probably both, and it would not be a reason to split these categories along citizenship lines.
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Since it was not organised, lower case. Though there were several groups, they were organised so that French Resistance would be more appropriate in that case (and other occupied countries).
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Support: the party changed its name ahead of the 2014 elections when it merged with the Progressives Movement, and has been campaigning as the Green Alliance ever since.
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Support. "Illyrism" is supposedly the idea or the (political) ideology behind the Illyrian movement. No real distinction between the two, and "Illyrian movement" is preferable, I'd say.
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Mild oppose as the scope of this category seems wider than that of the article. It includes other articles mentioning peace efforts involving other organisations than Fatah and Hamas, such as
PFLP and
DFLP, which have seen serious confrontation in the past.
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Comment, if SMALLCAT would be an issue, the nomination would consist of merge proposals instead of delete proposals. I am assuming that the nomination actually aims at deleting categories suggesting that Rojava has been a military player on its own.
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Comment, if SMALLCAT would be an issue, the nomination would consist of merge proposals instead of delete proposals. I am assuming that the nomination actually aims at deleting categories suggesting that Rojava has been a polity of its own.
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Leaning oppose I can see several are "soil-only", but many seem to be mixed, like the
American Society of Agronomy, which mentions both areas. It's not a huge category, & I'm not sure a split is needed with the present population, or a clean one possible. I think the problem is more fundamental - for example, not one of the many in
Category:Agricultural organisations based in England is in this category, whereas many would seem to qualify. We probably already have too many underpopulated categories, and not enough categorization - this nom will not help either. As so often, fiddling at CfD is not what is needed.
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Oppose - Most colleges that offer majors in agronomy are now offering them in crop, plant, or environmental sciences. If you look at how crops (and plants for that matter) are grown, they require soil to make it happen. The Soil and crop science organizations category has about 20 listings when I checked prior to making this selection. This is for any global organization that deals with soil and crop science.
Chris (
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18:34, 17 June 2018 (UTC)reply
Not sure why "Most colleges that offer majors in agronomy are now offering them in crop, plant, or environmental sciences." is a reason to oppose. It seems like that statement is similar to the fact that here in WP
Crop science is a redirect to
Agricultural science - but then
Soil science is still something separate. The fact that crops require soil to grow is a poor reason to oppose, as they also require water and sun so grow and we do not want to have meteorology to be included here.
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06:05, 18 June 2018 (UTC)reply
Oppose. These organisations are almost all concerned with agronomy. For example the Soil museum(!) displays, for each sample, "where it is found, its nutrient status, the crops it is best suited for, and recommendations for use and management of land where the soil is present."
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