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Nominator's rationale: Despite the broad scope of the title, this is actually a set of administrative wards in the
Pangani District within the
Tanga Region of Tanzania.
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Category:Fictional oaths
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Oppose Pure deletion will put the one article in a state of limbo. Unless there is a suitable parent category to merge it to, I'd say it's still fine to keep. SMALLCAT has exceptions for categories that are part of established schemes. The scheme in this case is "Foo" and "Fictional foo", unlike other categories that can be merged into a parent that is also "Fictional foo".ZXCVBNM (
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Category:Vodou
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Nominator's rationale: Surprisingly, we don't have an overarching article about all of vodon/vodou/voodoo. But the disambiguation page is at
Voodoo, and that's probably as it should be, since that's going to be the most
recognizable form for English readers. Since all six (!) spellings at
Voodoo#Religions are legitimate for their particular traditions, I don't see a reason to favor the Haitian form over the most recognizable one. If the request is successful, I'll make a CFDS C2C request to update most of the child categories, though those associated with a specific tradition (e.g.,
Category:Dominican Vudú) should keep their respective spellings, of course.
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Category:Opera Software
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Category:Road vehicles by country
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@
Vossanova: The two subcategories weren't tagged for CfD yet, I have done that now. More importantly, the proposal lacks a rationale, could you please explain why you think these proposed changes are useful?
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Marcocapelle: Sure – Road vehicles by country only contains one country (Singapore). Its only other subcategory, Taxicabs by country, can be placed in Vehicles by country along with the car and truck categories already there. So IMO, Road vehicles by country is unnecessary because
Category:Vehicles by country fulfills its purpose. --
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Category:Wikipedia procedure header templates
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Nominator's rationale: Slightly broader name, for the scope of what's in it. Not all of them are procedures strictly speaking, but they're all kind procedural, relating to procedures, processes, features, etc., rather than something topical like "notability" or "humor", nor being a type of page like "policy" or "essay". —
SMcCandlish☏¢ >ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ< 17:07, 18 December 2017 (UTC)reply
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Category:Wikipedia proposals in brainstorming stage
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Support upmerge, it does not distinguish itself from the parent category because one can always brainstorm about every draft proposal (preferably on the talk page). However, not all content of this category can be classified as a draft proposal, there are also contributions that read more like an essay.
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Sure; I have no objection to re-categorizing some as essays, and I've been doing incremental work to better categorize essays by subject and type. —
SMcCandlish☏¢ >ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ< 12:55, 2 January 2018 (UTC)reply
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Category:Films scored by Gopi Sunder
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Roman governors of Britain
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Nominator's rationale: I started the whole series of "Cannabis and religion", "Tobacco and religion", etc cats, but somehow I didn't standardize the order, so most of them are "X and religion", but the main cat and the alcohol one are "Religion and X". I think putting religion last makes sense since the drugs are subsets of the larger topic of religion. I'm open to suggestions but I think just "x and religion" flows smoothest.
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Category:Long songs
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Nominator's rationale: They are not actually long songs, but long recordings of songs. Besides the obvious, what exactly is the encyclopedic worth of this category, the Guinness Book of records might have space for the longest recording, but all of them with WP entries? No.
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keep Hi, I'm the one the made the category; sorry if it doesn't meet guidelines, I wasn't trying to clutter things. I made it in good faith, thinking categories were just to aid people in finding similar articles. To address a few points, I'm not sure what the distinction is between a "long song" and a "long recording of a song". I only added articles to the category that are considered single songs by the artist, not that are simply mashed together live performances or something. As for the forty minutes number, I figured it was a line of exceptionality. There are plenty of thirty minute and below songs, but only a few forty and above that I could think of. Maybe the name is wrong, maybe it should be "Song that are above 40 minutes"; I don't know.
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A category is supposed to be something defining. Is the length of a recording really defining? Why? Secondly, a song has no specific length of time, or at least it can be variable, it is the recording of that song which has the specific length, i.e. different recordings of the same song will be of different lengths. --
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I absolutely think having a song (or, as you point out, a track) exceed forty minutes in length is defining. It's exceptional, out of the norm, and interesting. To create a song in the modern era that is that long takes a conscious effort to step out of standard conventions. As such, much of the album's surrounding structure will be altered to accommodate. Or, in some cases, the whole album will be composed of one song--which is undoubtedly an interesting deviation from what it expected. As to the difference between a song and a recording of a song, I think it's a little pedantic to look at a 50-minute track and say the nebulous "song" nestled within could be, in some pure form, 20 minutes shorter. When dealing with such large numbers, I think it's clear that the amount of wiggle room has been exceeded. And if that is the major hang-up, then the category could be renamed to 'Recordings of songs that exceed 40 minutes'.
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Category:Kimang'a Ward
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Category:History of flags
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Keep - it was simply underpopulated, which has now been fixed, and it is now big enough to keep. Vexillology is the study of flags in general - their design, history, use, politics, meaning, etc. History is just one aspect of that and makes perfect sense as a subcat.
Grutness...wha?00:10, 19 December 2017 (UTC)reply
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Category:Eliticides
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Category:Asian antelopes
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Category:Sport in Morshyn
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Subcategories of Category:Fictional starfighters
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Category:DC Comics weapons
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Oppose Smallcat only applies if the category has no potential for expansion. This one can be expanded with articles from the parent category, it just hasn't been populated.ZXCVBNM (
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Lasso of Truth, Power Ring, Trick Arrows, Invisible Plane and possibly more. I believe I left a message for someone to change the infobox so that weapons got sorted into that category rather than the objects one and that is why I left it blank but I am not sure if anyone did.ZXCVBNM (
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Category:Fictional televisual devices
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Category:Time viewing devices
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Well,
Palantír wasn't in it, for a start, nor
Mirror of Galadriel, so that's three pages and two redirects already. It seems likely to me that other present and future works do/will notably feature time viewers, even if those listed in the main article don't have articles of their own. –
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Category:Robotech spacecraft
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Category:Andromeda (TV series) spacecraft
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