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I think, at a very minimum, that the parent category and the largest child categories (probably USA, UK, Canada, Australia, France, Spain and Italy) should be tagged.
Marcocapelle (
talk)
15:21, 28 October 2016 (UTC)reply
If "Catholic Church" is good enough for the main article, it should be good enough for the categories. It'd be a different story if the disambiguation page was located at "Catholic Church", but it's not. Perhaps if you have a problem with how the article is named, you should take it up at RM. --
Tavix(
talk)01:19, 30 October 2016 (UTC)reply
Support The category title should match the parent article, with remarkably limited exceptions. In the absence of any reason to disambiguate here, the discrepancy between the title of the parent article and the associated categories only creates greater confusion for editors and readers.
Alansohn (
talk)
14:46, 31 October 2016 (UTC)reply
Support Wikipedia uses the "common name". The article is at
Catholic Church. That is by far the common name. In fact some argue that the name "Roman Catholic Church" is a relic of Anglican anti-Catholicism that attempts to portray Catholics as foreign. The main point is that if it works for the main article name, it can work for the category name.
John Pack Lambert (
talk)
13:03, 4 November 2016 (UTC)reply
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's
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The result of the discussion was:upmerge all to appropriate Northwestern Territory categories. @
Marcocapelle: As the original proposer of this alternative, could you create a list of the appropriate categories and message me on my talk page with them so I can complete the upmerge? (Alternatively, you're welcome to carry it out directly, but I'm happy to make use of
WP:CFD/W if helpful.) ~
Rob13Talk08:05, 8 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: Category is an anachronism. Ohio was part of the Northwest Territory in 1795 and wasn't named Ohio till 1803.
...William, is the complaint department really on
the roof?16:02, 29 October 2016 (UTC)reply
Merge all to Northwest Territory categories, preferable ones covering a whole decade. It is inappropriate for the target to be a subcat of decades in Michigan etc. Also there is a need for a capnote as in
Northwest Territories due to several places with rather similar names.
Peterkingiron (
talk)
17:47, 30 October 2016 (UTC)reply
Comment I seem to remember a multitude of previous nominations of this sort and how they amounted to more busy work on the part of editors with a fondness for such rather than anything that's really going to move the encyclopedia forward. The point being, in this context, is "Ohio" supposed to refer to a piece of geography or a state of mind? I believe that point has been raised before and no consensus was ever achieved. If there really is any confusion, it could be resolved by placing explanatory text at the top of the category page in lieu of endless CFDs. From what little Ohio history I remember from long ago, much of northeast Ohio was considered a part of Connecticut during the tail end of the 18th century, which confuses the matter even more.
RadioKAOS /
Talk to me, Billy /
Transmissions 19:30, 2 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Merge all to the Northwest Territory category. Various discusions have established that in the United States we use the name and the boundaries that reflect the political reality of the time. Whether we have enough contents for these categories to justify having categories for each year is a question best left for a seperate discussion. We have
Category:1825 establishments in Michigan Territory etc that reflect this fact.
John Pack Lambert (
talk)
13:08, 4 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Comment The "Connecticut claimed part of this territory" statement is not quite right. In 1786 all claims of rulership to the Northwest Territory were ceded to the Federal Government, and the Northwest Territory was created. All Americans operating in the Northwest Territory after that point accepted that they were under the political control of the Northwest Territory. The Western Reserve of Connecticut after that point was an area of land that Connecticut held the theoretical ownership of as land owner, but did not hold any political control over. It then sold off the land or gave it as grants.
John Pack Lambert (
talk)
13:12, 4 November 2016 (UTC)reply
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