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Category:Counts of Rosselló

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The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:37, 30 October 2015 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: upmerge because the two categories have identical scope, Rosselló is just the Catalan translation of Roussillon. Marcocapelle ( talk) 19:03, 22 October 2015 (UTC) reply

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Countships of the Holy Roman Empire <-> Counties of the Holy Roman Empire

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Counties of the Holy Roman Empire. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:35, 30 October 2015 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge as it's unclear how the two categories are distinct from each other. Both categories contain counties. I've no preference for a particular merge direction so I've tagged both categories. Marcocapelle ( talk) 18:51, 22 October 2015 (UTC) reply

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Category:Automata (computation)

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Automata (computation). Could have gone either way, but Category:Automata (computation) seems to be broader in scope than Category:Automata theory. This is without prejudice to a reconsideration of the name of Category:Automata (computation). Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:18, 19 November 2015 (UTC) reply

Nominator's rationale: Automata are the subject of automata theory, so the two categories have the same subject. (Regarding the "theory" part in the name, I've never heard of "automata practice" even though automata have many practical applications.) QVVERTYVS ( hm?) 09:59, 22 October 2015 (UTC) reply

See Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2013_February_5#Category:Automata for the original creation of this as a disambig between mechanical and computing automata. This merge should have been done then, not the two names for computation. Andy Dingley ( talk) 10:07, 22 October 2015 (UTC) reply

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Category:Rappers' birth decades

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:31, 30 October 2015 (UTC) reply
  • Propose deleting
Nominator's rationale: WP:Overcategorization; having a category for one's birth year is already enough by itself, and so is having a "rapper" category. Snuggums ( talk / edits) 03:13, 22 October 2015 (UTC) reply

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Category:Fraternalists

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus to delete, but there seems to be a consensus that at least a rename could be appropriate, though there wasn't any strong consensus on which specific name. For now, I will rename to Category:Members of fraternal service organizations to match Category:Fraternal service organizations, but this should by no means be seen as the final say on the name of this category or on whether its subcategories should continue to exist. There is no consensus on these matters as a result of this discussion.

Nominator's rationale: Another SHAREDNAME cat, and trivial to boot. None of these orders are related to one another, and being a "Fraternalist" is, in many cases, a trivial item. We had this issue specially with the Freemasons cat, and we limited it to those who were notable in the realm of Freemasonry, not simply for being members. There's no reason to put all these groups together by membership in any case. MSJapan ( talk) 00:24, 22 October 2015 (UTC) reply
  • Reply Except we deleted Category:Freemasons because it ended up being a collection of people who were simply named as members, and went so far as to get subcatted by country. In short, it got out of hand, and did not really present a meaningful connection between the names in the category. For example, Harry S Truman and Mozart have nothing in common besides being Freemasons (which is why SHAREDNAME applies). MSJapan ( talk) 02:38, 24 October 2015 (UTC) reply
  • Yes, it got deleted, but a five-years-later deletion review resulted in its restoration. Anyway, imagine that there's consensus for RevelationDirect's current "Members of the Orange Order" CFD, to convert it into "Grand Masters of the Orange Order". I'm imagining putting that category into this one, even should the rename-and-purge idea be accepted. Whether we're including just the Grand Masters of the Order, or whether we're including all Orangemen, the category is a collection of bios because their subjects were all somehow related to the Order. As long as we have several categories of this sort, we ought to have a container for them. Nyttend ( talk) 02:56, 24 October 2015 (UTC) reply
  • @ RevelationDirect: There are numerous secret societies but that doesn't mean that any have anything to do or in common (except the secrecy) with each other. There are secret societies where the public don't know who the members are (organized crime, the KKK, Skull & Bones, and others fall in that formulation) and others who have members known to the public but what happens there is secret (the Odd Fellows, most social fraternities, the SS, the House Republican Caucus, or Privy Council of the United Kingdom, fall into that). But here these sorts of different groups formed for different purposes at different times are being tied by some veil of "secrecy" which is not uniform. Carlossuarez46 ( talk) 17:59, 27 October 2015 (UTC) reply

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