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Category:Saraswati Valley kingdoms

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete; upmerge content to Category:Kingdoms in the Mahabharata. Good Ol’factory (talk) 04:06, 9 December 2014 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: A valley is a region between hills, so 'Sarasvati valley' does not even begin to make sense. A disastrous creation that should not have been kept so long. Jayakumar RG ( talk) 17:27, 16 October 2014 (UTC) reply
There is no Saraswati valley at all since the river flows through the desert. I can find no sources where these kingdoms are mentioned as being near a Saraswati valley. This category is WP:OR. Jayakumar RG ( talk) 01:48, 17 October 2014 (UTC) reply
Other than the naming issue, the main reasons I tagged it for deletion are WP:OCLOCATION and WP:SMALLCAT. This category is never going to expand beyond its current 4 items. Jayakumar RG ( talk) 04:08, 19 October 2014 (UTC) reply
I don't think that WP:OCLOCATION applies to literature or mythology. Perhaps WP:SMALLCAT could apply but then the category should be upmerged instead of deleted. Marcocapelle ( talk) 23:12, 19 October 2014 (UTC) reply
If we have to rename the category, it would be something like 'Kingdoms mentioned in the Mahabharata along Saraswati river'. This is not at all an important category, and upmerging it would still leave the category visible in the articles. This is rather misleading. Jayakumar RG ( talk) 03:18, 20 October 2014 (UTC) reply
The latter is not correct. If there would be consensus on upmerging, the upmerging process will take place automatically and the articles will be recategorised automatically. Meanwhile however, I guess it's difficult to reach consensus. Marcocapelle ( talk) 13:57, 20 October 2014 (UTC) reply
WP:TRIVIALCAT applies too, since the categorization is peripheral to the topic's notability. Jayakumar RG ( talk) 03:23, 20 October 2014 (UTC) reply
Speedy keep applies only when no argument was provided by the nominator at all. Here, an argument is provided and you should show why it is wrong. Speedy keep does not apply here. Jayakumar RG ( talk) 13:00, 20 October 2014 (UTC) reply

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Category:CFR Cluj players

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The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:29, 24 October 2014 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Duplicate category TexasAndroid ( talk) 14:19, 16 October 2014 (UTC) reply

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Category:Oklahoma articles without listas parameter

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. – Fayenatic L ondon 14:42, 5 December 2014 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: This is really unnecessary tracking. As far as I'm aware, the only other project that has a category like this is Biography, which makes sense as biographical articles will likely have to be sorted by family name. On the other hand, Category:2006 in Oklahoma does not need to be sorted other than by its base pagename. Articles like Troy Aikman (via Talk:Troy Aikman) are also included, even though they do have a listas parameter for {{ WPBIO}}. This makes even less sense, as these are alphabetized properly in all tracking categories (cf. Category:Top-importance National Football League articles or Category:Low-importance Oklahoma articles.) — Justin (koavf)TCM 09:16, 16 October 2014 (UTC) reply
  • Comment If people in that project use it to reduce the number of "without listas" problems in their topic area, then I don't see any problem with this. Talk page categories are not usually prime real estate that needs to be kept to a reasonable minimum. SFB 17:11, 16 October 2014 (UTC) reply
    • Listas is infrequently used. Not using it is normal and you would have fewer entries if the category was Category:Oklahoma articles using listas parameter. While not in that WP, I see no advantage to the category. I will admit that for some of the projects I work on I use it when needed. But out of say 3,000 articles, if you exclude people articles, the need for it probably runs well under 100 articles and my guess is most of those are for yearly events with yearly articles. Vegaswikian ( talk) 20:01, 17 October 2014 (UTC) reply

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Category:Military personnel referenced in the Wehrmachtbericht

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus on Category:Military personnel referenced in the Wehrmachtbericht, so merge others to it. – Fayenatic L ondon 14:48, 5 December 2014 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: That a military officer (e.g. Wilhelm Bittrich) was referred to in a radio broadcast is a WP:NON-DEFINING characteristic. See also Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2014_August_3#Category:Recipient_of_Mention_in_Despatches. DexDor ( talk) 05:53, 16 October 2014 (UTC) reply
  • Keep Roughly 1,500 soldiers and officers were personally mentioned in the Wehrmachtbericht. In comparison 7,364 people received the Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross or one of its higher grades, Germany's highest award for military bravery and leadership. To be mentioned in the Wehrmachtberich is a very rare distinction and honour. See also MisterBee1966 ( talk) 08:07, 16 October 2014 (UTC) reply
I am supportive of a merge into one category MisterBee1966 ( talk) 07:41, 17 October 2014 (UTC) reply
  1. Murawski, Erich (1962). Der deutsche Wehrmachtbericht 1939 – 1945, vom 1.7.1944 bis zum 9.5.1945 [The German Wehrmacht Report 1939 – 1945, from 1 July 1944 to 9 May 1945] (in German). Boppoard am Rhein, Germany: Harald Boldt Verlag.
  2. Die Wehrmachtberichte 1939–1945 Band 1, 1. September 1939 bis 31. Dezember 1941 [The Wehrmacht Reports 1939–1945 Volume 1, 1 September 1939 to 31 December 1941] (in German). München, Germany: Deutscher Taschenbuch Verlag GmbH & Co. KG. 1985. ISBN  978-3-423-05944-2.
  3. Die Wehrmachtberichte 1939–1945 Band 2, 1. Januar 1942 bis 31. Dezember 1943 [The Wehrmacht Reports 1939–1945 Volume 2, 1 January 1942 to 31 December 1943] (in German). München, Germany: Deutscher Taschenbuch Verlag GmbH & Co. KG. 1985. ISBN  978-3-423-05944-2.
  4. Die Wehrmachtberichte 1939–1945 Band 3, 1. Januar 1944 bis 9. Mai 1945 [The Wehrmacht Reports 1939–1945 Volume 3, 1 January 1944 to 9 May 1945] (in German). München, Germany: Deutscher Taschenbuch Verlag GmbH & Co. KG. 1985. ISBN  978-3-423-05944-2.

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