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Delete Up till now, only one of her works has received an article of its own. While there is scope for expansion, the category in its present status is nearly empty.
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Category:HVAC manufacturing companies
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Have you ever heard of a ventilating company? Or do you hear it as a ventilation company? It sounds like a company of assassins that go about ventilating people. --
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Category:Cuisine of Detroit, Michigan
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Nominator's rationale:Delete. Following the previous discussions summed up at
Cuisine of Lancaster, if you remove stores, companies and brands this is what remains. I guess the restaurant category can be removed from these since consensus seems to be that they are not cuisine. The basis for this tree seems to be the intersection of food and culture which has been pointed out is not cuisine.
Vegaswikian (
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17:59, 9 May 2013 (UTC)reply
delete I'm not sure what was in there before, but for now as a cat this doesn't seem to hold up - only one authentic thing, which is the pizza article. A cat for a single article goes too far. Just make sure the restaurants is appropriately parented. --
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Category:Mountains of West Bengal
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Nominator's rationale:Rename In West Bengal there are few mountains, but have numerous hills. In order to avoid over-categorisation or miscategorisation, I propose that this category be renamed.
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Placenames → Place names
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Nominator's rationale:Rename. Excluding its use as an adjective (in "Foo placename etymologies"), all but these five categories use "place names".
Grutness...wha?09:52, 9 May 2013 (UTC)reply
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Category:Airport Fire and Rescue Services in the United Kingdom
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Category:Culture heroes
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then go and post an AfD for
List of culture heroes. As long as this list is uncontested, if follows that the category is uncontested. We certainly don't need a list article for each category, but there can certainly be a category for every concept deemed suitable for a full list article. Just because people miscategorize articles doesn't mean that the categories themselves are to blame. This is a matter for cleanup, not deletion. Obviously only subjects for which it has been established based on decent evidence that they "have beend described in terms of being a 'culture hero'" need to be considered. If somebody wants to argue Napoleon is a "culture hero", let them produce decent evidence first. In the case of Napoleon perhaps in a sub-article on "legacy of Napoleon" or something. As it stands, the string "culture hero" simply doesn't occur on Napoleon's article, so you are free to just remove the page from the "culture hero" category without further discussion. I find it difficult to understand how somebody could conclude that such an obvious content issue should lead to a category deletion debate. --
dab(𒁳)07:47, 9 May 2013 (UTC)reply
The definition in the
Culture hero article is "a mythological hero specific to some group ...". That it's specific to some group indicates that it's not a
WP:DEFINING characteristic ("reliable, secondary sources commonly and consistently define"). The list article contains lists of those considered to be cultural heroes in specific mythologies - that's OK.
DexDor (
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19:49, 9 May 2013 (UTC)reply
Keep but brutally purge, and while we're at it a bit of
WP:TNT applied to
List of culture heroes wouldn't hurt either.
Culture hero has a clearly defined meaning, but it's obvious that the people making these lists and categorizations don't understand it or don't know it and just take it as a synonym for
hero, which it is not.
Mangoe (
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16:50, 9 May 2013 (UTC)reply
About the definition Let's roll that definition again: "A culture hero is a
mythologicalhero [...] who changes the world through
invention or
discovery." It's as opposed to someone who does mighty deeds of battle or who is a prophetic figure, as the rest of the first graf goes on to explain. The problem is obvious: hardly anyone, and this appears to include most people responding here, has read that second half of the first sentence. I'm pretty sure that if one read the literature in the field, it would actually talk about certain figures being culture heroes.
Mangoe (
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01:33, 10 May 2013 (UTC)reply
Delete - This is way, way too vague and overbroad. There can be a gajillion "concepts" about people: "Heroes to youth", "Invention heroes", and so forth. People are defined by their own accomplishments & biography, not by arbitrary concepts applied to them after the fact. An article on
culture hero with appropriate examples is the way to go here. --
Lquilter (
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03:33, 11 May 2013 (UTC)reply
Delete hopelessly subjective. Someone's hero is someone else's scumbag. Napoleon is a good example: some of the Nostradamus interpreters find him to be one of the Antichrists alluded to by Nostradamus - hardly hero material.
Carlossuarez46 (
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18:18, 13 May 2013 (UTC)reply
I suppose that a sure sign of the hopelessness of this category is that people keep bringing up Napoleon when he plainly does not fit the definition!
Mangoe (
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18:26, 13 May 2013 (UTC)reply
But he was put in there, which shows people who actually apply the category do not understand what it really "means", which suggests in common use it does not mean what our article claims it means.
John Pack Lambert (
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03:58, 16 May 2013 (UTC)reply
I believe that the commonly used phrase is "cultural hero"; I certainly had not come across this term before this nomination. I suppose it says something futile about the project when we have to delete a category because the average reader is incompetent to populate it.
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11:16, 16 May 2013 (UTC)reply
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Category:1990s Western film stubs
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Oppose at this point. Since the category was not being added by the template, we really don't know how many articles would be in there. While the 2000s and 2010s categories were deleted, I did not see a discussion for this one after a quick look.
Vegaswikian (
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02:46, 9 May 2013 (UTC)reply
Keep, but rename to ‹The
templateCategory link is being
considered for merging.›Category:1990s Western (genre) film stubs, per ‹The
templateCategory link is being
considered for merging.›Category:Western (genre) films. Same should be done with the rest of the stub tree. This category currently has about 20 members, and there seems to be quite some undersorting in its stub parents, so it may reach a reasonable level without much fuss. There's something fishy with this parent category though (someone has made a hell of a mess, by the looks of it). It has about 150 articles, but only 36 of them have one of the stub templates within the category transcluded to them. I note too that several of the articles in the category are marked with {{1920s-Western-film-stub}}, and are in there as well as in the decade-specific category. According to the template, that 1920s category has 11 articles - yet there are 112 listed in the category. This may require some investigation before anything is done as far as deleting or keeping is concerned.
Grutness...wha?13:39, 9 May 2013 (UTC)reply
Fair enough. The large number of stubs in the parent was the reason I suspected there was undersorting - if that's not the case, the category certainly falls below the necessary threshold. Still doesn't explain why there are so many in the parent cat though. Server-lag strikes again, perhaps?
Grutness...wha?00:29, 10 May 2013 (UTC)reply
Because you live in the West, but the English Wikipedia isn't the Western Wikipedia. Hell, there are even University courses that study western film not meaning cowboys, but meaning Western Civilization. --
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Category:1980s Western film stubs
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Oppose at this point. Since the category was not being added by the template, we really don't know how many articles would be in there. While the 2000s and 2010s categories were deleted, I did not see a discussion for this one with a quick look.
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