Category:The Rosenwald School Building Fund and Associated Buildings MPS
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Comment As the creator of this category I have no problem with spelling out Multiple Property Submission (MPS), but it should be
Category:The Rosenwald School Building Fund and Associated Buildings Multiple Property Submission (it should not end in "s", as it is singular rather than plural)(corrected by nominator). I entitled the category in this manner (I do know that general naming conventions state to avoid abbreviations unless it is the official or generally used name) because the National Register of Historic Places officially lists it as The Rosenwald School Building Fund and Associated Buildings MPS. All of their official multiple property and thematic resource listings can be found
here (they all use MPS or TR, including this one). This category's defining characteristic is that it covers all Rosenwald schools in Alabama that are listed on the NRHP, so I oppose deletion. If you check the
parent category you'll find that about half of the categories at the state and national levels use the official MPS or TR (Thematic Resource) abbreviation while the others spell it out. I don't recall there ever being any discussion specific to this at
WP:NRHP or elsewhere, so there doesn't appear to be any previous consensus on which to use.
Altairisfar (
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01:52, 9 October 2011 (UTC)reply
Let's see how this goes. The other ones are probably going to need individual nominations since deletion is going to be an option. The buildings are notable on their own and not because they are part of this MPS. So being included in the MPS is not defining. That means the guidelines don't support creation of the category. Using a template for cross article navigation seems to be the preferred method of navigation in cases like this.
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18:58, 9 October 2011 (UTC)reply
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Category:Spindle albums
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Category:Spindle songs
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Category:NFL GameDay games
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Category:Holocaust in art and literature
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Nominator's rationale: The nominated category has relatively few subcats and quite a lot of articles, while the proposed target -- its parent category -- has many subcats but few articles. I don't see anything in the nominated category that couldn't fit in the target cat, and indeed, there's quite a bit of duplication already. And of course, "Works about foo" is a well-established naming convention, whereas "Foo in art and literature" is not. Indeed, the other parent for the nominated cat is "Fiction by topic", which is only half-right: visual art is not fiction. Anyway, I think the proposal would offer readers a simpler way to find content. Does anyone feel this proposed merge would harm rather than help navigation? This is obviously an important and sensitive subject area and I appreciate the need for great care, but I feel this merge is relatively non-controversial.
Shawn in Montreal (
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18:00, 8 October 2011 (UTC)reply
Merge I too see no benefit in the additional level of categorization. Since the parent cat is reasonably small, it's much easier for readers to browse a category with the larger scope (especially since the scope of "art and literature" is not entirely obvious)
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20:20, 9 October 2011 (UTC)reply
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Category:Fire departments of Australia
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Nominator's rationale: - Rename - No such entities exist - this an external non-Australian attribution - all Australian bodies are english usage ' Fire Brigades' or 'Fire Services' - a much more suitable and understandable category name would be 'Fire and Rescue Services of Australia'
SatuSuro12:32, 8 October 2011 (UTC)reply
Support - I agree, the term "Fire departments" isn't generally used in Australia. Fire and Rescue Services of Australia is a better descriptor. -
Bilby (
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22:48, 8 October 2011 (UTC)reply
Reply - It is clear that Fire Department is not supported so far in this CFR - as for the rename - ( perhaps the above comment should be repeated at the Australian noticeboard to double check ? ) - I was not suggesting the rename should 'fit exactly' into any particular corresponding state service title - but surely it allows in the words used accommodation of variants - I stay with the one I suggested (Fire and rescue services) because of that and do not support 'Fire services'
SatuSuro11:24, 9 October 2011 (UTC)reply
While a few use/used "Fire Brigade" or others just use "Fire and Rescue" they're all services provided by the state/territory. "Fire and Rescue" is a good name for the category since all of the fire services in Australia also do non-fire related rescues.
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11:03, 10 October 2011 (UTC)reply
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Category:IRAS
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Category:Objects discovered in the Two Micron All-Sky Survey
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The result of the discussion was:rename. If that changes the scope, then it changes it to the one used by all the other catalogue subcategories.--
Mike Selinker (
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12:34, 23 October 2011 (UTC)reply
Comment the rename will change the scope, from objects discovered by 2MASS to objects surveyed by 2MASS which may or may not have been discovered by it.
70.24.247.61 (
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09:10, 9 October 2011 (UTC)reply
Interesting comment. The obvious follow-up questions are "do we want two categories?" and if not "which do we prefer?". I'm tempted to say "no" on the first question but I really don't feel competent to answer the second one.
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20:24, 9 October 2011 (UTC)reply
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