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Nominator's rationale:Delete.
Mockbuster appears to be a neologism, rarely appearing even in the sources cited in the article. Inclusion seems arbitrary given that the definition of the term as given in the article is subjective ("...created with the apparent intention...") I did not check every single article but the ones that I did check had no sourcing that indicate that they were created with the apparent intention of piggy-backing off another recent or soon-to-be-released film. Several of them are flat out not mockbusters or derivative works at all but I'll leave them in the category pending this discussion. The overall nebulous nature of the concept and the original research that leads to the films' being categorized here argue for its deletion.
Harley Hudson (
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23:59, 10 May 2011 (UTC)reply
Keep The term gets 46,000 ghits, at least one (in Screen Enemies of the American Way: Political Paranoia about Nazis ... By Fraser A. Sherman) from a proper book. For things like
Orca (film) and
Snakes on a Train it is highly defining, I would think, though I can see some arguments about what to include.
Mockbuster is quite long, if not, er, heavily linked, & should be linked to these.
Johnbod (
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19:12, 13 May 2011 (UTC)reply
Delete As Harley Hudson points out, the term is subjective, so there is no way of objectively determining what articles should be placed in the category. Johnbod's reasons fail to address the reasons given for deletion. No matter how commonly used the term is, the subjectivism remains, and Harley Hudson is quite right in saying that the categorisation has to amount to original research.
Keep The term is not subjective. There are criteria. Just read the article
Mockbuster. Perhaps there are some articles in this category that are not sourced to be Mockbusters. Then just remove these films from the category but do not delete the whole category. --
Bothary (
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13:39, 22 May 2011 (UTC)reply
Delete the term is subjective. The article on mockbusters says "Though the words are often used interchangeably, the term mockbuster implies a spoof or parody of the original film's premise, while knockbuster implies a more derivative (or knock-off) use of a successful film in the same genre." Johnbod's managing to find 1, yes one, book that uses the term hardly establishes that it has widespread use. That is only one of the issues, and really only relevent to having the article. The issues with the category is that there is no universally agreed on difference between a mockbuster and a knockbuster, so that the requirement that a categorization of something has to be something not debatable will not be met.
John Pack Lambert (
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20:14, 23 May 2011 (UTC)reply
The mockbuster article is not perfect yet. Nevertheless there are other sources for a definition: "Mockbuster. It refers to the low-cost film which mocks similar title of large tracts. Large tract is “blockbuster”"
[1] A shorter but somewhat more clear definition. Or just "mockbuster (blockbuster knockoff)" in the book The Rough Guide to Cult Movies from Paul Simpson and Rough Guides and the book There's a Word for It: The Explosion of the American Language Since 1900 Sol Steinmetz --
Bothary (
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22:28, 23 May 2011 (UTC)reply
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Category:Racism by country or region
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Category:Guangdong – Hong Kong border crossings
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Oppose as creator (thanks for notifying me!). This was created as the most NPOV way of defining these border crossings as geographical end points instead of political endpoints so it did not look like bi-lateral state-to-state borders. There is currently some discussion about whether there is a better way, but for now, this should stand.
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Category:Guangdong – Macau border crossings
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Oppose as creator (thanks for notifying me!). This was created as the most NPOV way of defining these border crossings as geographical end points instead of political endpoints so it did not look like bi-lateral state-to-state borders. There is currently some discussion about whether there is a better way, but for now, this should stand.
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Category:Organizations attacking one or more religions
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Category:Water resources administrations of China
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Category:Scottish Executive Environment and Rural Affairs Department
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Nominator's rationale: The
Scottish Executive was replaced by the nomenclature
Scottish Government in 2007 and is unlikely to be changed back under the new administration. The "departments" have been re-organised twice since then and are now "directorates". The new meta-directorates are as noted
here and the proposed targets seem to be the closest analogues. The latest re-vamp took place in December 2010, and although all the details of the responsibilities do not yet seem to be published they are similar enough to allow for the move.
BenMacDui19:16, 10 May 2011 (UTC)reply
Comment: Is there any thing that is solely related to the education or the environment department, and has no relation at all with the succeeding directorates?
Peter Geatings (
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08:09, 11 May 2011 (UTC)reply
Until SG come out with something more definitive (or it can be found, if it's available somewhere) it is hard to be certain. In 2007 they produced
this pdf of the "Scottish Government Senior Management Structure", but I have seen no update. Having said that I think it is unlikely that anything in Environment and Rural Affairs has not been carried forward to Enterprise and Environment. It is harder to be sure about Education, but it seems likely that it has been subsumed under the "learning" part of the Learning and Justice Directorate. What is certain is that neither the "Scottish Executive" nor any "departments" exist under current terminology.
BenMacDui18:06, 11 May 2011 (UTC)reply
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Category:Roman chefs
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Category:Wikipedians of German descent
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The result of the discussion was:Speedy delete per G4. This was previously deleted
here with no deletion review overturning this decision.
VegaDark (
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06:20, 18 May 2011 (UTC)reply
Delete per nom. Seems to be the only cat of its type as well. Let's not set a precedent for this specific degree of categorisation. --
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Category:Armoured personnel carriers of the United States
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Rename. The current spelling is inappropriate, but not sufficient reason for deletion. (The spelling used in other similar categories for other countries is irrelevant: for non-English speaking countries there is no reason to prefer one spelling over the other.)
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11:49, 11 May 2011 (UTC)reply
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Category:Opposition to Islam
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Delete not a useful category; presumably each religion opposes all others so "Opposition to Fooism" basically equals "All religions/groups/philosophies not wholly in agreement with Fooism".
Carlossuarez46 (
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18:06, 10 May 2011 (UTC)reply
Keep as a proper sub-category of
Category:Opposition to religion (which contains the anti-Christianity and anti-Judiasm categories the nominator wondered about) and as a proper parent to its own sub-categories. It's the only one that's named "opposition to" instead of "Anti-something". We have
Category:Anti-Islam sentiment so maybe these should be merged unless there's some difference between opposing Islam and being anti-Islamic?
Harley Hudson (
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19:37, 10 May 2011 (UTC)reply
I am leaning towards keep since "opposition" is a less loaded word than "anti-". If kept we should create equivalent sub-categories for all the other anti-FooReligion categories. --
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