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Support, but let's get the rest of these country categories into this nomination whenever the nominator has time. We have precedent, so there's no need to wait.--
Mike Selinker (
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02:15, 16 May 2010 (UTC)reply
That was discussed in the early changes of the former categories. I believe the consensus was to use former over formerly. Anyone have the time to look up that discussion?
Vegaswikian (
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23:05, 16 May 2010 (UTC)reply
I proposed "Formerly" before, but quickly withdrew the suggestion after it was made clear that it wasn't "places that were once populated" but rather "Populated places that have lost their designations."--
Mike Selinker (
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04:12, 17 May 2010 (UTC)reply
Support. I consider this to be mere rubber-stamping as there has already been a comprehensive discussion in a previous debate. __
meco (
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07:14, 17 May 2010 (UTC)reply
You realise that you've missing tons of existing sub categories which are still named c , t and v in /.. Province. What about Afghanistan, Nepal, Bulgaria
Category:Settlements in Brazil by region etc? It isn't just Syria, it is tens of other countries. If you are changing the parent categories then you must also change the sub categories from cities, towns and villages. You've even missed countries like
Category:Cities, towns and villages in Costa Rica. If this must be done please esnure that all categories which have the cities, towns and villages naming or "Settlements" naming are fully changed. I suggest you carefully go through each country and list the ones which are split into provinces ordering.
Dr. BlofeldWhite cat21:27, 21 May 2010 (UTC)reply
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South Africa international footballers
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Nominator's rationale: No need for both cats. Consensus should be reached about a rename. Perhaps including "association football" in title to avoid disambiguation with other football codes common in South Africa.
DjlnDjln (
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23:02, 15 May 2010 (UTC)reply
Rename per nomination. We should not be doing the transition to "association footballers" piecemeal. I do support that change overall, but in a deluge, not a trickle.--
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20:46, 23 May 2010 (UTC)reply
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Category:TAD albums
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Category:List of Palestinian record producers
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Merge per nom. Both categories were created just a few minutes apart, with the correctly-named one coming later, so it's possible this was just an error that didn't get fully corrected. But it's true that they are redundant and the target is named properly.
Good Ol’factory(talk)22:10, 17 May 2010 (UTC)reply
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Category:Pacific Northwest Ballet
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Controversies in the United States by year
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Nominator's rationale:Merge. There are not so many articles in the parent controversies by year as to require further subdivision by country.
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17:35, 5 May 2010 (UTC)reply
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Category:QWERTY smartphones
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Category:Mexican Plateau states by state
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Loyola University Maryland
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Category:Activists for Japanese-American civil rights
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Nominator's rationale: Restore the previous name for the category, as not all members of the category were activists specifically for Japanese-American civil rights. Some petitioned for Asian American civil rights. Others such as
Richard Aoki participated in larger civil rights movements.
Myasuda (
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04:30, 15 May 2010 (UTC)reply
remame per nom A review of the articles shows the people worked for civil rights (Japanese or more general), not just 'activism', whatever that is.
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Albums by artist
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Nominator's rationale: Rename all, following my proposal and
ensuing discussion (permalink) at
WT:ALBUMS. To summarize, I made this proposal to rename all the categories and subcategories of ‹The
templateCat is being
considered for merging.›Category:Albums by artist to use the Albums by Fooian artist, as opposed to its current scheme, Fooian albums. This is preceded by ‹The
templateCat is being
considered for merging.›Category:Films by director, as the scheme used by its subcategories is Films by Fooian directors, not Fooian films by director. Basically, the artists are the subjects that are being defined by nationality, not the albums themselves. Although albums can be nation-specific (for example, if an album is released only in Canada, I suppose it can be called a Canadian album), this category is not grouping albums by this method, nor do we currently categorize albums by nation-specific release; my arguments against such categorization can be found in the discussion linked in the opening sentence.
Anywho, back to my proposal. I feel that categorizing albums under ‹The
templateCat is being
considered for merging.›Category:American albums, ‹The
templateCat is being
considered for merging.›Category:British albums, etc., is both misleading and incorrect. An album can't possibly be nationalized, especially if the album is recorded in a different country than that of the artist, or recorded in multiple countries. As the categories become more refined, the problem becomes all the more evident. For example, take a look at ‹The
templateCat is being
considered for merging.›Category:French hip hop albums. Personally, I see a big problem here. Are these pages categorized by albums of
French hip hop? Perhaps
hip hop albums in the
French language, but not necessarily by
French people? Or maybe exactly what it's supposed to be categorizing: hip hop albums by people of French nationality. And this is just one category. There are others with this exact same problem; there are categories that don't even exist yet, but would run into the exact same problem once they are created.
I find that this current naming scheme is ambiguous at best, downright confusing at worst. The proposed renames of the categories would remove any confusion and would more adequately describe the contents of these categories. —
ξxplicit00:02, 15 May 2010 (UTC)reply
Rename as nominated. This is a fantastic idea. These have always irked me because of their ambiguous/incorrect meaning. They always sound to me as if we are categorizing based on what country the album was produced in, which is not at all what is intended. This brings a lot of clarity to what now is, frankly, a long-standing dogs breakfast.
Good Ol’factory(talk)01:36, 15 May 2010 (UTC)reply
produced? rather, where they were sold. There was a time when UK and US releases were quite different. But it's so far gone, it hardly matters now. Are they still presing hardcopy CDs at all?
East of Borschov (
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14:25, 15 May 2010 (UTC)reply
Rename per nom. I was never confused about what was intended here, but enough other people were that it's certainly worth choosing a clearer and more transparent naming format.
Bearcat (
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18:27, 15 May 2010 (UTC)reply
Agree. Should it be Category: Albums by Fooian artist or artists, following the convention of the parent
Category:Albums by artist (or maybe that one should be changed to artists). The similarly-named song categories should follow suit. And should the genre cats be Category:Albums by Fooian artists by genre rather than Category:Albums by genre by Fooian artists? --
Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars (
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20:42, 15 May 2010 (UTC)reply
The nomination pluralizes the Albums by Fooian artists as the subcategories of ‹The
templateCat is being
considered for merging.›Category:Films by director do; I'm not entirely sure if this follows a set naming convention, but it makes more sense to me. I do plan to bring ‹The
templateCat is being
considered for merging.›Category:Songs by country and several other categories that use the Fooian subject as opposed to Subject by Fooian whatever where needed. I didn't want to rush these nominations if they would fall through (although, this nomination seems to be running by smoothly). As for your last point, I think you're right, and I've amended six of the nominations under "Fooian albums by genre" accordingly. —
ξxplicit21:01, 15 May 2010 (UTC)reply
*Comment Please include Quebec in the renaming proposed. Quebec is a regional music category, but I am told they are about to get their own portal. They must follow the new naming conventions proposed.
Argolin (
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06:06, 21 May 2010 (UTC)reply
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