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Category:Summer Paralympics
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The result of the discussion was:merge per nom. A glance at
Category:Summer Paralympics shows that all of the articles deal with the 2008 games, and a simple merge this way means that no other work needs to be done (great idea by the anon and Grutness, though).
Kbdank7113:24, 6 August 2008 (UTC)reply
Comment don't you mean that Sumer Paralympics should be merged with Summer Paralympic Games, and currently improperly categorized 2008 articles should be recat?
70.51.9.224 (
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04:47, 1 August 2008 (UTC)reply
It may seem more of an exercise in semantics than anything else, since the result would currently be the same, but there is technically difference between merging A and B as subsets of C (your proposal) and merging A and C and recategorising everything from A into B (the counterproposal). If more articles relating to other games (e.g.,
2012 Summer Paralympics) were placed in
Category:Summer Paralympics before the completion of this CfD process, then your original proposal might result in them being wrongly categorised; the counterproposal ensures that they wouldn't be.
Grutness...wha?00:09, 5 August 2008 (UTC)reply
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Category:SAARC Nations
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Category:People from Trelleborgs
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Category:Sports festivals hosted in Czech Republic
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Nominator's rationale: This is in an effort to make it more consistent among sports festivals. Event it is called Czech Republic, most people pronounce it with "the" preceding the country
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Category:Deputy Lieutenants of Southampton
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Nominator's rationale: Hampshire is formally known as the County of Southampton, and is so printed in the London Gazette. However, usual practice is to refer to Lord-Lieutenants, Deputy Lieutenants, etc. of the county as being "of Hampshire". The two categories should be merged under the Hampshire name
Choess (
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14:40, 31 July 2008 (UTC)reply
Merge although only one article even mentions Deputy Lieutenant and that is not sourced (unless I have missed something).
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16:07, 31 July 2008 (UTC)reply
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Category:Bridges and tunnels that are Registered Historic Places
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The result of the discussion was:no consensus. As discussed, if there are other like categories that could be renamed, an umbrella nomination is probably a good idea.
Kbdank7113:17, 6 August 2008 (UTC)reply
Comment:We're aware of the related categories - still coming to consensus wrt their new names
here. I'm OK with inserting "United States" prior to "National".--
Appraiser (
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00:13, 1 August 2008 (UTC)reply
The other proposals are not listed and thus cannot be addressed here. I asked for United States to be included in the category description, not in the name (which is already somewhat cumbersome). However, New Zealand has a
Register of Historic Places as does Canada,
Canadian Register of Historic Places, and it seems to me that there is potential ambiguity. I am sure you would agree that
Category:Bridges and tunnels on the Register of Historic Places is ambiguous; and adding National doesn't seem to me to make a decisive difference. So I would now suggest adding (United States) both to the article name and to the category name, for clarity.
Occuli (
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17:56, 1 August 2008 (UTC)reply
I agree that the title is awkward but disagree with the nominator's rationale, "Old name is incorrect syntax - not recognized by National Park Service." We have documented numerous cases of "Registered Historic Places" being used by NPS writers (although downcasing) when writing for external audiences in budget proposals and travel itinerary websites. We have a need for the Proper Noun version of that phrase. And, the internal NPS or state SHPO jargon is probably not appropriate for general wikipedia usage, containing implicit assumption that the nation involved must be the U.S. which makes sense internally but is U.S. centric in wikipedia articles. I also thought there was consensus at wt:NRHP to discuss the whole batch there or in the NRHP renaming proposals subpage.
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Category:Ethan Kath related
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Category:Women's media and publications
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Right, nothing wrong with combinatorial names per se, the rename simply brings it in line with other similar cats. (Note: Lquilter was the creator of this category.)
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Category:Boxer Rebellion American ships
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Category:Mononymous entertainers
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The result of the discussion was:delete, per overcat, precedence (see porn stars listing below) and as Sam points out, recreation of deleted material .
Kbdank7113:03, 6 August 2008 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale:Delete -
overcategorization by coincidence of name format. That an entertainer uses one name or two names or three names is not a defining characteristic. We have previously deleted such categories as People known by first name only and People known by single-name pseudonym. A subset of a deleted category should also be deleted.
Otto4711 (
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12:36, 31 July 2008 (UTC)reply
What is the difference between this and the deleted categories for people known by one name pseudonyms and people known by first name? Where is the literature that suggests that going by a single name is a significant area of study? What is the encyclopedic relationship between, say,
Barbette, an American drag queen trapeze artist from the 1920s, and
Shazza, a Polish pop singer?
Otto4711 (
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01:09, 1 August 2008 (UTC)reply
Even if the parent category "Mononymous persons" is kept (which it shouldn't be), I still don't see an argument for intersecting that with occupation instead of merging.
Postdlf (
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14:57, 1 August 2008 (UTC)reply
Delete per nom.
Category:Mononymous persons should have be deleted. It is a recreation of a previously deleted category. Sorry I missed that discussion. The deletion discussion for the previous incarnation was
here. I would have no problem with these categories becoming lists. If we are to have a category for monoymous people, I see no reason at all to intersect them with professions. (This would be possible in a list). We need clearer guidelines that explain the advantages and disadvantages of lists and categories. --
☑ SamuelWantman06:47, 4 August 2008 (UTC)reply
Keep per Peterkingiron argument. The relation of the mononymous persons category to the people known by one name pseudonyms and people known by first name is valid, but the decision not to delete (i.e. no consensus) should be seen as an overturning of those previous deletions. These things happen in Wikipedia, consensus sways. __
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Category:Beginners and newcomers
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The result of the discussion was:Withdrawn. Per suggestion, better to let this nomination die with a later rename after cleanup to focus on people by status.
Vegaswikian (
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07:30, 31 July 2008 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: Simply a mishmash of various articles. It includes military ranks and descriptions that can apply to every type of job. Clearly these are not occupations.
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06:34, 31 July 2008 (UTC)reply
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Category:Solomon Islander football clubs
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Nominator's rationale:Rename. "Solomon Islands is the correct adjectival demonym - the current name is equivalent to "Frenchman football clubs".
Grutness...wha?06:01, 31 July 2008 (UTC)reply
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Category:Mononymous porn actors
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Nominator's rationale:Rename for consistency. The term used in WP categories is "porn stars"; the parent is
Category:Porn stars and all of the subcategories use "porn stars" too. (Not that I have an in-depth knowledge about this category tree or anything ... you know, a "friend" told me. Yeah ... that's the ticket.) Notified creator with {{
subst:cfd-notify}}Good Ol’factory(talk)05:17, 31 July 2008 (UTC)reply
Delete -
overcategorization by coincidence of name format. That a porn star goes by one name or two names or three names is not a defining characteristic. We have previously deleted categories for people known by a single name and people known by single-name pseudonyms; a subset of a deleted cat should also be deleted.
Otto4711 (
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12:27, 31 July 2008 (UTC)reply
Comment (nom). Deletion is fine with me. I haven't kept up too well on the precedents of categories for these types of things, so I wasn't sure, but I'm glad
Otto4711 is around to make a stronger argument I can agree with. (... mind you, it would have been nice to have the category around for my "friend's" use, but oh well ... .)
Good Ol’factory(talk)22:37, 31 July 2008 (UTC)reply
I don't mind the category being renamed, but I would certainly object to it being deleted. Note this CFD was initially to rename the category, not delete it.
Neıl☄10:24, 6 August 2008 (UTC)reply
Keep. This deletion discussion is being conducted under false pretenses. I looked at the category page, and there was a notice there saying that there was a discussion about renaming the category, which I didn't find the need to occupy myself with. Now, by accident, I find out that the disussion is about deleting the category. Also, why isn't this discussion being merged with the above discussion on deleting
Category:Mononymous entertainers? Isn't it glaringly obvious that these two have to be dealt with together, as one? If the outcomes are at variance there will have to be an immediate renewed discussion which means that the present discussions taking place will be a mere waste of time. I move to have this discussion annulled and merged with the aforementioned discussion, and to have that renewed (i.e. extending the timeframe). __
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10:09, 6 August 2008 (UTC)reply
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Category:ABS-CBN Celebrities
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Delete - It's no surprise that the creator is the same editor who created
Category:Celebrity endorsers in the Philippines, which is also at CFD at this moment. (I might also note that his user page has a notice of suspected sockpuppetry.) But the real issue here is that we simply don't categorize people merely for being generic "celebrities" --
Category:Celebrities is fundamentally a container category with sub-cats for particular types of celebrities.
Cgingold (
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02:08, 31 July 2008 (UTC)reply
Delete. Fancrufty category. Even though certain number of celebrities are "tied" to a particular Philippine television station (either
ABS-CBN or
GMA Network), majority of Filipino celebrities are "bound" to a network only on a per-project basis.
Sheryl Cruz, for instance, can be a "Kapuso Artist" (pertaining to GMA) but then transfers to
ABS-CBN after her drama series on the former network ends. Once that happens, she is now a "Certified Kapamilya" (pertaining to ABS-CBN).
Starczamora (
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09:45, 31 July 2008 (UTC)reply
Delete as performer by venue overcategorization. We don't categorize people by the networks on which they have appeared.
Otto4711 (
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12:29, 31 July 2008 (UTC)reply
Strong delete, overkill category (i.e. for the same reason I'm voting for a "delete" in the "celebrity endorsers" category". ---
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09:29, 4 August 2008 (UTC)reply
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