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Time filed: 02:26, Saturday, June 25, 2016 (
UTC)
Automatic, Supervised, or Manual: automatic
Programming language(s): Python
Source code available: Soon
Function overview: Replace CSD tags on pages if the tags are removed by the author
Links to relevant discussions (where appropriate):
Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/SDPatrolBot,
Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/NNBot II
Edit period(s): Continuous
Estimated number of pages affected: [0, ∞)
Exclusion compliant (Yes/No): No
Already has a bot flag (Yes/No): No
Function details: From the link: If a page which has been nominated for deletion has it's speedy tag removed by the author of the page, this bot will replace (or revert, depending on what you people want it to do ;D) the deletion tag and warn the user.
Notice that I am not implementing the G7-tagging part. I've seen that some authors will blank a new page they create right after they create it, and then later, add more content.
WP:NPPNICE; I wouldn't put this up to this bot as I envision it.
Discussion
- So If I create a page, then speedy it, then change my mind - this will revert me? —
xaosflux
Talk
03:23, 25 June 2016 (UTC)
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- No, it shouldn't. →
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04:47, 25 June 2016 (UTC)
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- Which warning template will it use? Will it revert indefinitely, or only a set number of times per page? —
Earwig
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05:17, 25 June 2016 (UTC)
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- A few observations from a quick look at SDPatrolBot's contributions:
- That should answer a few of your questions. I also found
Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/NNBot II and have added it to the list of relevant discussions at the top of the page.
- I think it may be wise for the bot to respect 3RR for safety and that deletion should "reset" the 3RR clock: if the page is recreated after deletion, and CSD tagged again, the bot should restore the CSD tag if it's removed again. But I have nothing against carrying out the decision of this discussion wherever the chips may fall. →
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05:56, 25 June 2016 (UTC)
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- The reason for the skipping of the level 3 warning was to be able to give a final warning before reporting to AIV, without violating the 3RR. The number of time the bot reverts was actually a configurable option set at
User:SDPatrolBot/configuration/replacementslmt.css, I think it would make sense to keep to 3 reverts before reporting, to stay inline with 3RR, and it therefore seems to make sense to follow a warning level of 1, 2 and then 4, so that a final warning is presented before reporting (reporting instead of reverting the fourth time the tag is removed). -
Kingpin
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23:36, 25 June 2016 (UTC)
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- You should also exempt G13s from this bot, because, obviously, if the creator edits their draft nominated for G13 to remove the notice, then it no longer qualifies for G13. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Omni Flames (
talk •
contribs) 11:11 19 June 2016
- I do not plan this bot to edit outside of mainspace. →
Σ
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Sigma)
05:30, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
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- Ah, that makes sense.
Omni Flames (
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06:39, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
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In my experience, filter 29 doesn't always trigger when someone removes a CSD. I think I'd just see if a page, that previously was in CAT:CSD but no longer is, doesn't transclude {{
db-meta}}. Then I'd go through the previous revisions until I find a revision that had a {{db-[arg][0-9]{1,2} tag and stick that back on the page. Maybe I'd also have checks to skip A1/A3 and G7 if they contain more than 100 bytes. →
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Sigma)
16:29, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
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- How are you getting your input? Are you going to periodically scrape
CAT:CSD, or are you going to be processing the entire recent changes feed (or something else)? —
xaosflux
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14:13, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
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- {{
OperatorAssistanceNeeded}} —
xaosflux
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16:06, 17 August 2016 (UTC)
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- Sorry for the late reply. And yes, it will check
CAT:CSD every 30 seconds or every 60 seconds, depending on how things look when I can test the script. →
Σ
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Sigma)
05:27, 18 August 2016 (UTC)
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- Most "antivandalism" type bots don't use the
bot flag
specifically so that the the changes will not be edited - what types of edits did you plan on asserting this for, if any? —
xaosflux
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02:47, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
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- I wouldn't mark CSD tags as a bot edit, if that's what you mean? →
Σ
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Sigma)
04:31, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
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- Approved for trial (60 edits). Please provide a link to the relevant contributions and/or diffs when the trial is complete. Please include a link to
Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/Lowercase_sigmabot_IV_1#Trial1 in your edit summaries (along with whatever else you are going to use). —
xaosflux
Talk
19:16, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
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- Great! Please allow me six weeks before starting to work on the trial. →
Σ
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Sigma)
02:30, 27 August 2016 (UTC)
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- A user has requested the attention of the operator. Once the operator has seen this message and replied, please deactivate this tag. (user notified) Are you ready to begin trials? —
xaosflux
Talk
18:35, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
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Trial 1
Please place feedback and results from initial trial run here. —
xaosflux
Talk
19:17, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
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- Request Expired. Request has expired due to non-response. This may be reactivated at a later time by the operator. —
xaosflux
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15:10, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
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