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The result was no consensus. Borderline, but one "delete" does not address the sourcing level and quality. Sandstein 06:13, 24 June 2018 (UTC)reply
Completing nomination on behalf of an IP who provided the following comment on the talk page:
As per: WP:N
This article reads like a CV. There isn't anything particularly notable about this political candidate. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
82.32.116.24 (
talk) 16:08, 31 May 2018 (UTC)reply
Keep: A notable activist during the
Scottish independence referendum, 2014, she was the lead organiser of the "Yestival" and made multiple television appearances, on
Scotland 2014. She was on the executive of
Women for Independence- a notable group that emerged during the referendum campaign period. She then stood for the female co-convener position in the
Scottish Green Party- this led to the first significant contest for such a position within that party. She was recently highlighted by
YWCA. These various activities have had coverage in multiple reliable sources that are independent of Kitson and of the Greens. She is therefore notable when judged against
WP:BASIC. I detailed some of her activities in the article and had thought it was worded in a neutral way- I have no connection to her.
Drchriswilliams (
talk) 20:35, 31 May 2018 (UTC)reply
Delete: As stated, the article reads like a CV. There isn't anything particularly notable about this political candidate. What sources do you cite for being a "notable activist". "Yestival" doesn't have an Wikipedia article. Many people have had television appearances, yet don't have a Wikipedia article. The article is very similar to the one which was deleted for Toni Giugliano:
/info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Toni_Giugliano — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
82.32.116.24 (
talk) 21:06, 31 May 2018 (UTC)reply
Actually, the subject of the currently contested article is a
politician. The subject of that other AfD was a
political advisor. There's a difference. -
The Gnome (
talk) 07:44, 20 June 2018 (UTC)reply
Delete Clear
WP:NPOL failure. After reviewing all the sources and doing a search of my own, the question in my mind is: does her failed leadership challenge in 2015 get her over the
WP:GNG line? She received a decent amount of coverage in late 2015 because of it, but it's largely from one newspaper that I see (the BBC article is pretty light, so not really counting it.) If there were several other newspapers all covering the Greens leadership election I'd be more convinced to do a weak keep. The remainder of the sourcing on the page passes
WP:V but isn't significant coverage of her - a name-drop here, a quote there, a mention here.
SportingFlyertalk 05:21, 1 June 2018 (UTC)reply
Keep Never mind all the acronyms, Ms Kitson is a pretty-high profile individual in what is admittedly the junior party in the Scottish government. Here's a decent guide - has someone with a casual interest in the news living in what some (ill-informed) people might think of as a remote part of rural Scotland heard of them? In my case the answer is "yes". (I have no idea who Toni Giugliano is, so it isn't that similar.)
BenMacDui 18:45, 1 June 2018 (UTC)reply
The Scottish Green Party is not the junior party of the Scottish Government, the SNP run it as a minority administration. Toni Giugliano was a candidate for the SNP, who stood for them over several elections. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
82.32.116.24 (
talk) 12:17, 2 June 2018 (UTC)reply
You are right of course - it is more of a loose alliance. All the more interesting then that I recognise one name and not the other. As a passing observation I note how our standards vary across topics. There are articles about thousands of Scottish footballers who only obsessives can recall, yet we have less than thirty WP:BIOs about the Scottish Greens and
Category:Scottish women artists has 76 articles (that's less than 7 per century of history). It's lucky we are so gender balanced that this hasn't become more of an issue. (Inserts irony emoji.)
BenMacDui 07:57, 3 June 2018 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
SpartazHumbug! 19:24, 8 June 2018 (UTC)reply
Delete As per:
WP:N and
WP:NPOL there is not nothing noteworthy about this political candidate at this time to merit an article on Wikipedia. The article as it stands reads more like a CV. The section regarding her political career, simply notes the chronology of the elections she unsuccessfully stood for. The content of this article was very similar for Toni Giugliano and after the discussion there, the article was deleted.
/info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Toni_Giugliano — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
82.32.116.24 (
talk) 13:46, 10 June 2018 (UTC)reply
Delete Doesn't seem to pass notability, has mainly been an unsuccessful candidate, and held a few not very important posts.
PatGallacher (
talk) 14:58, 10 June 2018 (UTC)reply
Delete Cut out the content in the article that's based on press releases, interviews and other primary sources and all that's left is the barest bones of an article about someone who worked for a charity - and even that is sourced awfully. There's no way the GNG is met.
Exemplo347 (
talk) 19:43, 10 June 2018 (UTC)reply
For my part, I considered it a neutral notification & I would have ignored it otherwise.
Exemplo347 (
talk) 11:20, 15 June 2018 (UTC)reply
WP:Canvessing states: Canvassing is notification done with the intention of influencing the outcome of a discussion in a particular way, and is considered inappropriate. can you explain where I have tried to influencethe outcome of the discussion? If not, please apologise for making this accusation. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
82.32.116.24 (
talk) 20:56, 18 June 2018 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 08:38, 16 June 2018 (UTC)reply
Keep on account of subject comfortably passing
WP:GNG and
WP:POLITICIAN. Several portraits in The National (
here,
here, etc); invited participant to a
BBCpanel; extensive reports for her go at party election and campaign in The Herald (e.g.
here and
here); Evening Timesreported on subject's positions on youth; other interviews (e.g.
here); and so on. It certainly looks like a keeper. No comment on the politics per se, of course. -
The Gnome (
talk) 17:58, 16 June 2018 (UTC)reply
Comment I didn't think the Evening Times or Herald articles were at all substantial enough to show notability (short articles she's only quoted in/not the subject of) and most of the other coverage is a result of her failed candidacy to be the leader of a political party, which typically gets deleted unless coverage is substantial, since most candidates will receive at least some press coverage in the scope of their candidacy.
SportingFlyertalk 23:26, 20 June 2018 (UTC)reply
Comment, hi
82.32.116.24, you ask how you talkpage notification of this afd could be construed as
WP:CANVASSING? easy, it was quickly included on afd lists early on, and has been relisted so no real need to personally notify anyone, and you didn't notify any editor who may be deemed experienced/expert in this type of article, but the clincher is that all three editors said "delete" on the other afd you referred to in the notification, anyway this is a keep as meeting
WP:GNG, article reflects this with numerous
sources and those mentioned by
The Gnome, above.
Coolabahapple (
talk) 07:21, 20 June 2018 (UTC)reply
Delete Does not meet
WP:GNG and not an elected official ifcthe party,let alone elected to a body. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
148.252.128.186 (
talk) 14:06, 20 June 2018 (UTC)reply
Delete I don't see any evidence of notability which would help justifying standalone page for this politician per
WP:GNG.
Sdmarathe (
talk) 04:14, 23 June 2018 (UTC)reply
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