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An "international football" organization article that is a WP:HOAX in its current form. Walsh90210 ( talk) 19:00, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
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- No comment on GNG, but this is very clearly not a hoax.
SportingFlyer
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19:21, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- As but one example: there is a "Karen" team listed under Asia, but it is a local group in Minnesota.
Walsh90210 (
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19:24, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- You are likely unaware that the Karen are an ethnic group from Myanmar who have a diaspora in Minneapolis. SportingFlyer T· C 02:07, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- The Karen Football Association, which you can find can find plenty of details about through internet searches are a Karen diaspora group based in Minneapolis.
Sherms95 (
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13:03, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- The Kashmir team is a local club in Bradford. The organization (and the article) pretense to be "national teams for sub-national entities", but it isn't; it's a few random local clubs with ethnic ties that signed up for a press release with this group. Walsh90210 ( talk) 23:26, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- As but one example: there is a "Karen" team listed under Asia, but it is a local group in Minnesota.
Walsh90210 (
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19:24, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete – It may not be HOAX, but it didn't even organize any competition to be relevant. Svartner ( talk) 13:27, 12 June 2024
- That's not true - the BBC even lists Chagos as the winner of one of their competitions: [1] SportingFlyer T· C 09:00, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. Giant Snowman 20:28, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- Weak Keep Most of the coverage isn't independent, but there's some coverage, including from Bradford,
[2], BBC mentions, the Non-League Football Paper, and the nomination was based on a mis-understanding.
SportingFlyer
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09:00, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- They basically do not organize any relevant competitions, a single mention does not prevent failure in WP:GNG. Svartner ( talk) 18:58, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 19:24, 18 June 2024 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:20, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- Weak keep per above. This is clearly not a hoax, and SportingFlyer makes a good point. It's weak, admittedly, but it's a keep for me right now.
Anwegmann (
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01:21, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- The article is a hoax, because it conflates "national team" with "expat team", and relies on puffery from primary sources to the degree that it makes claims that are demonstrably false. Some actual organization may exist; but it is entirely "we let people put out press releases that pretense to importance which we do not have".
Walsh90210 (
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02:03, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- No, a hoax is generally something that's completely fictional, whereas this is an actual organisation similar to ConIFA. SportingFlyer T· C 09:45, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- The article is a hoax, because it conflates "national team" with "expat team", and relies on puffery from primary sources to the degree that it makes claims that are demonstrably false. Some actual organization may exist; but it is entirely "we let people put out press releases that pretense to importance which we do not have".
Walsh90210 (
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02:03, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist as there is no consensus yet.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:38, 2 July 2024 (UTC)