- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. As has been pointed out, the assertion that "high schools are notable" does not correspond to community consensus. Sandstein 08:35, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
Westcliff School of Skills
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Fails WP:GNG and WP:NCORP. Curb Safe Charmer ( talk) 18:38, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
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Someone from the school spoke at the hearing about the work that the school does |
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Just a listing providing contact information |
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Clearly not independent |
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Just a listing providing contact information |
| Bellville - wordingsjare van n stad (book) | ? | |
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? | ? | How funding was obtained for tools and instruments. Offline source |
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Just a listing providing contact information |
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School takes part in Christmas activities - not in citation given |
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School takes part in Christmas activities - in Africaans |
| Total qualifying sources | 0 | There must be multiple qualifying sources to meet the notability requirements | ||||
Curb Safe Charmer ( talk) 18:58, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
- Comment: This was approved through AfC recently, I had it in my watchlist, and I was surprised to see it approved as I couldn't see how it met the notability criteria. There are no doubt lots of articles about non-notable schools; I am not going to make a habit of nominating them for deletion. But I don't think we should be adding to them. The updated WP:NCORP and [ RFC] are clear enough, in my interpretation, that we shouldn't be creating more school articles without them meeting the WP:GNG criteria. As this is a newly created article, and appears to have no sources that would count towards notability, I believe we should consider it for deletion. Curb Safe Charmer ( talk) 19:09, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 01:28, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of South Africa-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 01:28, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
- Comment: I respect your decision to possible delete my article. I however would like to have it remained. My reasons are: It has coverage in: • Newspapers • Published history books • Government related websites Furthermore the school has been involved in a movie issued in 2010. The school has a history and has been in existence for 65 years. User:Barry Ne
- Push back to Draft and create redirect to List of secondary schools in the Western Cape this article. As a high school it has some notability, so WP:NSCHOOL may apply ahead of WP:ORGCRIT. However, the school article needs better sectioning as it reads like someone's website and contains trivial instances of like how many rugby players they have or the school's motto. Better sources can be found. AngusWOOF ( bark • sniff) 16:44, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
- Keep - this is a high school and high schools are notable - I previously AfD'd a high school which had only one reference and almost no ghits but it was kept Gbawden ( talk) 14:33, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
- WP:SCHOOLRFC determined that secondary schools are not inherently notable, Gbawden, and I have witnessed a number being deleted since that discussion. Cordless Larry ( talk) 18:46, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
- @ Gbawden: Primefac, as closer of WP:SCHOOLRFC, recently reminded us that "schools have to follow the same WP:CORP guidelines as every other organization." Curb Safe Charmer ( talk) 20:19, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
- Delete Fails WP:GNG big time. The Banner talk 18:52, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spartaz Humbug! 19:22, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spartaz Humbug! 19:22, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
- Delete, I agree that Curb Safe Charmer has shown that the subject fails our notability criteria. ♠ PMC♠ (talk) 06:07, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.