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I am also nominating the following related pages because they are the product (a powered parachute, "at least six" sold) and product line for the company:
Keep all three. The independent third parties refs already cited establish
WP:GNG and meet
WP:CORP. There is a
longstanding consensus on WikiProject Aircraft that all aircraft types that have been flown meet
WP:N and should have articles about them. Due to the number of aviation publications that do reviews, refs are almost always available, even if on paper. As is the case here, multiple refs are already cited. -
Ahunt (
talk)
14:10, 7 December 2019 (UTC)reply
Merge, keep and move the three articles into one. First of all, the
Viking powered parachute is an ultralight aircraft type that flew and as such passes the
notability criteria for aircraft (the fact that its wing was inflated by forward air pressure after the manner of a
paraglider is neither here nor there). The Viking II is a variant which has too little information to support its own article and should be merged into the main article.
The company has no notability outside of its one product range and its article should similarly be merged in. But I am unsure what the new all-in-one article should be titled, as sources are extremely slim, with both
St Andrews Viking and
Viking Aircraft Viking (currently a redirect) being plausible. At least there was once a website for
Viking Aircraft Inc. (Internet Archive), so my preference would be to move it over the redirect to Viking Aircraft Viking unless and until some other company provenance emerges. — Cheers,
Steelpillow (
Talk)
14:56, 7 December 2019 (UTC)reply
What reliable sources? World Directory of Leisure Aviation 2003-04 appears to be the only (possibly) acceptable one (offline, so who can tell?). In the company article, references 2 and 3 are for a different company, 4 is just the number of hits on the company website, and 5 is a bare FAA entry. In the Viking II article, there's the World Directory and FAA entry again, a Wayback machine "reference" with no link or explanation as to what it's supposed to support, and two company links. In
St Andrews Viking, there are two directories and a shopping guide.
Clarityfiend (
talk)
21:11, 7 December 2019 (UTC)reply
Merge - nothing on the company page seems to indicate any notability whatsoever, however the aircraft they produced does have notability - thus they should be merged into the name of the aircraft they produced.
- NiD.29 (
talk)
04:00, 8 December 2019 (UTC)reply
DeleteMerge Agree with Nid.29 above. The company does not meet the criteria for notability. While
the longstanding consensus on WikiProject Aircraft deals with the notability of aircraft, not with their commercial manufacturing company. As such the correct criteria is
WP:NCORP and this topic fails those criteria as there are no in-depth articles on the company itself. *edit* Changed !vote to Delete since realistically there is no content worthy of merging. A redirect is also not appropriate as it is highly unlikely to be a search term. */edit*
HighKing++ 11:45, 18 December 2019 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: There seems to be consensus that the aircraft are notable and should be kept. However, there is no consensus yet about whether
Viking Aircraft Inc meets the applicable community-wide guideline,
WP:NCORP. For those advocating redirect as an
alternative to deletion it would be helpful to state which article this company should be redirected to.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
Barkeep49 (
talk)
04:56, 15 December 2019 (UTC)reply
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