- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk, contributions) 08:47, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
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Non-notable person. Every result on Google either briefly talks about Zarb, or is about a non-notable story. MorbidEntree - ( Talk to me! (っ◕‿◕)っ♥)(please reply using {{ping}}) 07:33, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Malta-related deletion discussions. MorbidEntree - ( Talk to me! (っ◕‿◕)っ♥)(please reply using {{ping}}) 07:33, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. MorbidEntree - ( Talk to me! (っ◕‿◕)っ♥)(please reply using {{ping}}) 07:34, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
- He might be eligible to keep an article that was much more substantial and better-sourced than this, but being a leader of a labour union does not grant a person automatic inclusion rights for an article which just states that he exists, the end, and references that only to a single dead link. No prejudice against recreation in the future if somebody can actually do better than this, but this as written is not enough. Delete. Bearcat ( talk) 23:26, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 03:32, 17 September 2016 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 03:32, 17 September 2016 (UTC)
- Keep. I fail to see how the head of a country's largest trade union could not be notable. -- Necrothesp ( talk) 12:02, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
- Lack of adequate sourceability
Bearcat (
talk) 05:15, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
- Adequate sourceability is pretty obviously shown by the searches automatically spoon-fed above by the deletion nomination process, which are there to be examined before commenting here rather than ignored.
86.17.222.157 (
talk) 21:14, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
- MorbidEntree specifically addressed in his nomination statement the fact that they did examine the "spoon-fed" sources, and found them all to be glancing namechecks of his existence in articles that weren't substantively about him. "Google hits exist" is not automatically the same thing as "quality references that would fulfill the demands of
WP:RS and
WP:GNG exist" — one has to examine the depth and quality of the Google hits, not merely their number, and MorbidEntree did examine their depth and quality.
Bearcat (
talk) 17:59, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
- And I wasn't referring to the number of Google hits - I didn't even look at the general web search - but to the depth and quality of the sources found by the other searches that find mainly reliable sources. For example the first four of the news hits found are from independent reliable sources and have significant coverage of Zarb: [1] [2] [3] [4]. 86.17.222.157 ( talk) 19:58, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
- MorbidEntree specifically addressed in his nomination statement the fact that they did examine the "spoon-fed" sources, and found them all to be glancing namechecks of his existence in articles that weren't substantively about him. "Google hits exist" is not automatically the same thing as "quality references that would fulfill the demands of
WP:RS and
WP:GNG exist" — one has to examine the depth and quality of the Google hits, not merely their number, and MorbidEntree did examine their depth and quality.
Bearcat (
talk) 17:59, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
- Adequate sourceability is pretty obviously shown by the searches automatically spoon-fed above by the deletion nomination process, which are there to be examined before commenting here rather than ignored.
86.17.222.157 (
talk) 21:14, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
- Lack of adequate sourceability
Bearcat (
talk) 05:15, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 16:42, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 16:42, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
- delete or redirect to General Workers' Union (Malta) - Notability not shown fails WP:BIO and only ref currently is just a dead link. KylieTastic ( talk) 17:42, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
- Keep He was the head of the general Maltese workers union for 16 years. He got plenty of coverage in Maltese national newspapers for decades. A quick Google search shows that very easily. There are lot of articles which are full scale coverages of his person. He also was awarded the Xirka Ġieħ ir-Repubblika, which is the Maltese highest honour awarded by the government of Malta. I expanded the article a bit and added some reportages about him in national Maltese newspapers (like the The Malta Independent, Times of Malta or the Malta Today). Its still a stub, but it should demonstrate the notability. Keep in mind that those are only a selection, there are hundreds of articles on him and events where he was involved out there (and probably even more offline), as he had a a lot of impact in Malta. He is clearly notable per WP:GNG and WP:ANYBIO and the article should therefore stay. Dead Mary ( talk) 18:19, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
- Keep, obviously, per the sources found by the spoon-fed searches above. 86.17.222.157 ( talk) 21:14, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
- Keep sources provided above establish notability. TonyBallioni ( talk) 00:24, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
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