The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk) 20:24, 18 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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Non-notable business award from a non-notable organization. The page, heavily edited by single-purpose accounts, is nothing more than native advertising. Worldbruce ( talk) 18:40, 11 January 2020 (UTC) reply

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. Worldbruce ( talk) 18:40, 11 January 2020 (UTC) reply

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Advertising-related deletion discussions. Worldbruce ( talk) 18:40, 11 January 2020 (UTC) reply

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Malaysia-related deletion discussions. Worldbruce ( talk) 18:40, 11 January 2020 (UTC) reply

Notified, as interested parties, the top contributors by various measures (other than those already notified or indef blocked), namely: Aeacus10, Biwom, Derek R Bullamore, Dl2000, GrahamHardy, Lopifalko, Prisencolin, SoWhy, and Tbl2018. -- Worldbruce ( talk) 19:08, 11 January 2020 (UTC) reply

Dear Wikipedians, I have single handedly wrote this because I've been studying about this organization and understanding them for some time now. If you google "The BrandLaureate" you are surely able to find many other supporting media, websites, etc that cover and speak about The BrandLaureate. In my proposed Wiki entry for The BrandLaureate, I've careful written the article in such that portrays what The BrandLaureate is about, what are they doing, what have they done, who have they dealt with and what is in the current pipeline of their notable works in the near future. This company not only recognizes souls that contribute to the world by awarding them, they do so much for CSR and Charity all in all and has a heavy weight title as an organization in countries such as Malaysia, Singapore, Vietnam, South Korea, Australia, China, Thailand etc. I am trying to garner legit support from people who think that this should remain on Wikipedia and have its own space here. Do give me some time and I will update this section with more concrete citation/references regarding The BrandLaureate. Aeacus10 ( talk) 02:29, 12 January 2020 (UTC) reply

Aeacus10, "garner legit support from people who think that this should remain on Wikipedia". I caution you: please do not ask people to come and join this discussion solely to vote "keep". That will be seen as Meatpuppetry and is strongly looked down on. Captain Eek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!} ⚓ 05:56, 12 January 2020 (UTC) reply

• Delete Promotional junk that fails ...well I'm not sure there's a specific guideline here but it certainly fails WP:GNG. Captain Eek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!} ⚓ 05:55, 12 January 2020 (UTC) reply
• Keep Personally as the Author, I've studied this organization(for almost 2 years) and realize that they deserve a wiki space here. With their awards, contributions and social works to society around the world, they're notable and relevant to be on Wikipedia. I have further furnished below with more relevant links for notability/references from reliable 3rd party media sources. Aeacus10 ( talk) 08:32, 15 January 2020 (UTC) reply
• Keep The BrandLaureate that carries out the mission and vision of The World Brands Foundation should have a wikipedia page because over the past 15 years, the brandlaureate awards sole mission is to inspire individuals from all walks of life, the brandlaureate doesn't just give out awards to inspire the awardees but also gives hope and inspiration to everyone that has a dream to succeed in their field of expertise, helping entrepreneurs to step up in becoming who they are meant to be, the brandlaureate awards is like a movement and a testament to individuals to be a better version of themselves. As for the recipients of The BrandLaureate Awards themselves, the award is a testament to their brand and motivates them to uphold their brand story, https://www.olympicchannel.com/en/stories/news/detail/lee-chong-wei-mentorship-role-offer-lim-king/ thus The BrandLaureate needs to be on wikipedia to continue shining light on every individuals. Thebrandlaureatewiki ( talk) 08:30, 16 January 2020 (UTC) :— User:Thebrandlaureatewiki has made no other edits outside this topic. -- reply

• Keep Where The BrandLaureate is concerned, we have to take into consideration that they are the only brands and branding foundation and they are a catalyst in their field. Besides championing the Awards and branding, The BrandLaureate is also giving back to the community with their active CSR programs. One of many notable programme can be dated back to November 2018 when they co-hosted the biggest charity run in Malaysia with the Onn Jaafar Institute. The run recorded a new record high of 40,000 participants, the highest in the country https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2017/11/304679/running-name-charity-and-unity-mur-2017 Tbl2018 ( talk) 08:48, 16 January 2020 (UTC) — User:Tbl2018 has made no other edits outside this topic. -- reply
• Keep We should have the Brand Laureate Awards Wikipedia page because the organization has been instrumental in advancing branding, not just in Malaysia but in Asia and beyond. The awards not only pays homage to successful brands in the region but also provides a platform for industry professionals to take their personal and company branding to greater heights. And as a Malaysian, I am proud of the achievement and stellarcast that our country has produced and awarded rightfully for their record. https://says.com/my/news/malaysians-who-won-awards-and-achievements-that-made-us-proud-in-2019 Abrightstar ( talk) 08:56, 16 January 2020 (UTC) — User:Abrightstar has made no other edits outside this topic. -- reply

Hi Captain Eek, could you kindly point out which part seems to be violating the notability guide lines. I am attending to get more references and citations regarding this organization. The edit at first may look very "gloaty" but in truth this is what this organization is about. Hope to receive constructive criticisms to try and make this organization WikiApproved! :) Thank you.

The notability guidelines require significant coverage of the subject by multiple reliable and independent sources. Such sources do not seem to exist for this subject, which is why it is not notable. Wikipedia does not write about everything. Notability is our way of creating a standard for what we should cover. Captain Eek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!} ⚓ 19:54, 12 January 2020 (UTC) reply

Captain Eek Hi these are some additional reference/notability links that we have:- https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/teh-hong-piow-lim-kok-wing-bag-brandlaureate-lifetime-achievement-awards https://chinapress.com.my/?p=1750488 https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/bernama-wins-two-world-brands-foundation-awards http://www.dailyexpress.com.my/news/145364/award-for-sabah-s-fish-king-/ | https://www.theborneopost.com/2019/12/21/sabah-fish-king-receives-worlds-most-prestigious-award/ https://www.theborneopost.com/2019/12/19/naim-wins-brandlaureate-iconic-brand-of-the-decade/ https://www.thestar.com.my/business/business-news/2019/11/01/leong-hup-international-wins-two-awards-at-brandlaureate-best-brands-awards https://www.sinchew.com.my/content/2019-04/01/content_2031508.html https://www.bishijie.com/kuaixun/465550.html https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/SOHSosa53TUHY80enc3brQ

I can't seem to re-edit anything after I have submitted for the final draft which has now lead to this deletion page. There is also a downfall that this organization has gone through and I would like to include that in the article as well. How can I do this? Shall I wait for it to be all deleted and then re-write and re-submit again? Aeacus10 ( talk) 13:11, 13 January 2020 (UTC) Struck blocked socks. Worldbruce ( talk) 15:14, 16 January 2020 (UTC) reply

• comment In an effort to avoid deletion, the sockpuppets have renamed the article from "The BrandLaureate Awards" to "The BrandLaureate". They copied and pasted the content of Draft:The BrandLaureate, rejected last week at Articles for Creation, thereby changing the focus of the page from the awards to the organization that gives them. It fails WP:NCORP. Churnalism is not the foundation for an encyclopedia article.

Given their past persistence in trying to raise the profile of the organization and its awards, and the likelihood that undeclared paid editors will continue to do so, I recommend salting the topics after deletion. -- Worldbruce ( talk) 15:22, 16 January 2020 (UTC) reply

• Delete - Though this is an interesting case, I am voting delete. While there are a ton of sources that mention the awards (normally along the lines of "X wins/awarded BrandLaureate for Y), there is an exceeding lack of substantive, in-depth coverage about the awards themselves. The awards (and the organization that awards them) should not inherit undue notability from people/companies it has granted an award to. Combine this with the promotional intent of the article ( WP:NOTADVOCACY), and I do not see the topic as suitable for Wikipedia. SamHolt6 ( talk) 00:53, 17 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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