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Delete per nomination - local-interest books that I've never actually seen in local bookstores. --
Elkman - (talk) 22:52, 15 March 2006 (UTC) I'm removing this vote and recusing myself from this discussion because I've pissed off the author. Since I've never done a damn noteworthy thing in my life, OBVIOUSLY I'm not even qualified to participate in AfD votes or to edit an encyclopedia. You can go ahead and vandalize my page now, since everyone else who objects to my AfD articles vandalizes my page. --
Elkman - (talk)02:55, 21 March 2006 (UTC)reply
My two books have sold over 5000 copies and are currently being sold by Barnes and Noble and Amazon.com. I'm being inducted into the Minnesota Rock/Country Hall of Fame in May of 2006. When you "watchdogs" have done something this noteworthy, then go ahead and delete the articles about me. Until then, they should be left alone. [[
71.16.163.14802:28, 19 March 2006 (UTC)]]reply
I actually have done something that noteworthy, sales-wise, but I made an early decision not to give my wikipedia career over to self-documentation. Anyway, if you can bring back
The Defiants and
Shaw-Allen-Shaw over the current copyright problems, then we can begin to address whether your own article is notable - but until then, we have a problem.
Bobby P. Smith Sr. Jr.16:02, 19 March 2006 (UTC)reply
I'd like to echo that request. If you can reference that claim, I'd be more than willing to reevaluate my position. (Which is only weak anyway.) --
JiFish(Talk/Contrib)
18:42, 20 March 2006 (UTC)reply
Userfy and please don't
bite a well-meaning newbie here.
User:Torshaw made many good contributions to
Minnesota articles. Yes, every one of them needs cleanup and rewritting to fit our style, but the content of these is valuable and I'd like to encourage Terry to keep adding good stuff.
Jonathunder02:22, 23 March 2006 (UTC)reply
Keep and merge to
Terry R. Shaw or
The Defiants. I think that the case to be made here is that in aggregate Shaw merits an article. The main grounds for inclusion is the involvement in
The Defiants, which while at best barely meeting
WP:MUSIC, is better evaluated through the lens of history. The fact that they are being The Defiants had local significance prior to the ubiquity of local rock bands, and as such are rather more significant than the dozens of bands that we delete daily. Further, though the articles themselves need copyediting, there are enough facts to build upon. Shaw's books, despite being of local interest, have nonetheless sold in the thousands, making this more than a mere church-basement project.
The Uninvited Co.,
Inc.23:32, 24 March 2006 (UTC)reply
If you have found evidence that the book has actually sold thousands of copies could you please give us a link to it here to inform our debate. --
Spondoolicks13:29, 25 March 2006 (UTC)reply
I'm not quite sure how I missed
The Defiants in my trawl through
User:Torshaw's edits looking for vanity articles. His other non-notable band, Shaw-Allen-Shaw got deleted a few days ago and I'm putting this one to AfD as well. --
Spondoolicks13:43, 25 March 2006 (UTC)reply
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