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The result was no consensus‎. WP:NPASR applies. plicit 23:47, 6 June 2023 (UTC) reply

Strat Andriotis

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WP:BLP of a musician, not properly sourced as having any strong claim to passing WP:NMUSIC. The notability claim here is that he and his music exist, which is not automatically enough all by itself in the absence of WP:GNG-worthy coverage about him in reliable sources to validate its significance -- but the referencing here is entirely to primary sources (directory entries, content self-published by his record label) and blogs that are not support for notability, with not one shred of GNG-worthy reliable source coverage in real media shown at all.
Nothing here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from having to be referenced considerably better than this. Bearcat ( talk) 17:25, 17 May 2023 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, plicit 23:44, 24 May 2023 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:26, 30 May 2023 (UTC) reply

  • Keep - This looks like a substantial article in Fanfare - ProQuest  1615777790 Nfitz ( talk) 20:29, 31 May 2023 (UTC) reply
Even just basic "notable because GNG" requires more than just one "substantial" article. Especially when even that one source is a Q&A interview in which the subject is talking about himself in the first person: an interview source can be used amid a mixture of solid GNG-worthy sourcing, but it can't singlehandedly vault a person over GNG all by itself if it's the only media coverage he's got. Bearcat ( talk) 18:49, 1 June 2023 (UTC) reply
WP:GNG does not say "requires more than just one "substantial" article". It literally says "multiple sources are generally expected" not "multiple sources are required". Please don't turn shades of grey into non-existent black and white rules. Nfitz ( talk) 04:27, 3 June 2023 (UTC) reply
One source is only sufficient if it explicitly verifies a hard notability pass on the order of "won a Juno Award". One source has never, ever been enough all by itself if you were going for "because media coverage exists" as the notability claim, especially if that one source was a Q&A interview in which the subject was talking about himself in the first person. Bearcat ( talk) 01:12, 4 June 2023 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.