- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was no consensus. I have a feeling that this is going to be one of those closes which makes nobody happy. There is genuine disagreement as to whether the available sources constitute SIGCOV or not. Unfortunately, there is no way to determine the "truth" of this without making a "supervote". Therefore I judge no consensus as to the notability of this topic. Perhaps a merge discussion could take place. Is there really so much material on the topic that such a large article should be written that it can't all appear on the Idol season's page? That is not what is being discussed here, but perhaps further discussion could take place on talk. Just a suggestion. 78.26 ( spin me / revolutions) 14:22, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
Stephanie Edwards (singer)
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Fails WP:NSINGER. Bgsu98 (Talk) 16:05, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians, Women, Television, and Georgia (U.S. state). Bgsu98 (Talk) 16:05, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
- Comment. I think if a nominator chooses to nominate multiple pages that have all survived one, two or, in this case, three previous deletion discussions, they're behooved to provide a bit more rationale than "fails WP:SINGER". Please explain what's changed, and what you found when researching the subject. pburka ( talk) 16:28, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
- Redirect to American Idol (season 6) - this appears to be a WP:REALITYBIO without significant support from independent and reliable sources for notability independent from the show. The article content about the show is also largely unsourced. I have not found much more, e.g. Vulture 2016 (one-sentence blurb); Vulture 2012 ("This People thing is sometimes hilariously vague. [...] Edwards “has released at least three singles.”"); Screenrant 2021 ("While many fans felt Gina Glocksen and Stephanie Edwards were eliminated prematurely, the battle between Sparks, Blake Lewis, and Melinda Doolittle remains highly memorable."); MTV 2007 (interview). Beccaynr ( talk) 18:28, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
- Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent
reliable sources. The subject passes
Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Basic criteria, which says:
SourcesPeople are presumed notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject.
- If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability; trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources is not usually sufficient to establish notability.
- McGinn, Andrew (2008-03-10).
"Back to school, studio for former 'Idol' finalist Stephanie Edwards".
USA Today.
EBSCOhost
J0E227753170608. Archived from
the original on 2023-05-14. Retrieved 2023-05-14.
The article notes: "In a few years, Stephanie Edwards should be able to give her professional opinion. The Season 6 finalist is back in school studying psychology. While most of her fellow finalists are chasing stardom, she's chasing a degree at Armstrong Atlantic State University in her hometown of Savannah, Ga. ... She still performs regularly around Savannah and goes to Atlanta on weekends to work on her pop/R&B debut. (She's still seeking a label.) Last fall, she recorded On Our Way for a CD single to benefit the Leukemia & Lymphoma Society."
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"Stephanie Edwards Sings the Blues". South Magazine. April–May 2008. Archived from
the original on 2023-05-14. Retrieved 2023-05-14.
The article notes: "It's been exactly one year since Stephanie Edwards made a name for both herself and Savannah on American Idol. ... But for Edwards, who still dreams of pop stardom, the music hasn't died. These days, Edwards can be found wandering the campus of Armstrong Atlantic State University – where she is pursuing a bachelors degree in psychology – or sweating it out at the AASU gym."
- Mobley, Chuck (2010-03-18).
"Stephanie Edwards to appear at Savannah Theatre".
Savannah Morning News. Archived from
the original on 2023-05-14. Retrieved 2023-05-14.
The article notes: "Stephanie Edwards, who wowed national audiences with her singing abilities on "American Idol," will be a featured performer in "Southern Nights," a musical variety show that will premiere this evening at the Savannah Theatre. ... A graduate of Windsor Forest High School, Edwards made it to the final 12 in 2007, the sixth season for "American Idol.""
- Morris, Amy (2007-02-20).
"Stephanie Edwards: Savannah Idol - Local Singer Vies for Title of 'American Idol.' She'll Step Into the Spotlight Wednesday".
Savannah Morning News. Archived from
the original on 2023-05-14. Retrieved 2023-05-14.
The article notes: "The 19-year-old Windsor Forest High School graduate beat out thousands of hopefuls to become one of 12 female contestants battling for a record deal and the title of "American Idol." ... Edwards also has a strong bond with her family. Her parents pushed her to drive to Memphis and audition for the show. Her father coordinates her outfits (from Charlotte Russe, Gadzooks and Wet Seal) which have so far stood up to judges' scrutiny. When Stephanie began to perform locally under the moniker "Uniek," her aunt, Wanda Edwards, relocated from Detroit to Savannah to shuttle her to performances."
- Morris, Amy (2007-04-27).
"Around Here, She's Still an 'Idol' - The Phone Keeps Ringing for 'American Idol' Finalist Stephanie Edwards".
Savannah Morning News. Archived from
the original on 2023-05-14. Retrieved 2023-05-14.
The article notes: " Stephanie Edwards might not be an "American Idol," but she's plenty popular around here. Not long after stepping off the plane from California three weeks ago after a lengthy run amid the competition on the popular TV show, the Savannah singer was inundated with requests to appear at events all around the Coastal Empire. ... Stephanie's "Idol" contract prohibits her from recording an album until late August, but she already has started researching major record labels on the East Coast - the closer to Savannah, the better."
- Keep as per the multiple reliable sources coverage identified in this discussion such as reliable newspapers that together show's significant coverage for passing WP:GNG so that deletion is unnecessary in my view, Atlantic306 ( talk) 23:02, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
- Comment: My original nomination of this article was based on my interpretation of the criteria at WP:NSINGER. Reading the following - "Singers and musicians who are only notable for participating in a reality television series may be redirected to an article about the series, until they have demonstrated that they are independently notable." - it would be appropriate to redirect this article to appropriate season of American Idol, which is what I probably should have done in the first place. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:20, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
- Delete: BLP, fails GNG and BIO. The above source eval clearly shows the sources are brief mentions in promo and brief routine news mentions, nothing that meets SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth from IS RS. The above eval involved a complete BEFORE so I doubt anything else will be found. WP:BLP states "Be very firm about the use of high-quality sources"'; BLPs need IS RS with SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth for both content and notability per well known core policy ( WP:V and WP:BLP) and guidelines ( WP:BIO and WP:IS, WP:RS, WP:SIGCOV). No objection to a consensus redirect to American Idol (season 6). // Timothy :: talk 18:27, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 06:26, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
- Keep Not all of the sources provided by Cunard above illustrate news coverage of a post-Idol career, but the mention of her debut single in USA Today is good. I was able to find more news coverage of the single in Savannah Morning News by using ProQuest and also found mention of her second single in a Billboard article. I've added those as sources to the article. Jpcase ( talk) 21:47, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 06:44, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per Timothy. All of the sources are largely interviews and are promotional in nature. I have noticed Cunard recently digging up sources on AfD's quite frequently, however they don't often meet WP:SIGCOV in one way or another. JML1148 ( talk | contribs) 09:00, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- Comment: All five sources I linked provide significant coverage of the subject. There is enough non-interview coverage in the sources to meet Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Basic criteria, which says, "multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability". The 86 words of coverage in the Billboard article ( link) found by Jpcase further contributes to notability. Cunard ( talk) 09:44, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- Keep per Cunard's sources. pburka ( talk) 12:25, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- Redirect to the appropriate season. I think the sources are short of the mark here, particularly noting both the thinness of coverage once you discount the description of her Idol run, the overreliance on a small set of local papers, and the fact that she doesn't appear to have taken any high-profile activity in the last 15 years or so, which makes me more concerned about privacy concerns for this BLP. signed, Rosguill talk 02:51, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
- Redirect to American Idol (season 6) per Beccaynr & Rosguill. 33ABGirl ( talk) 08:49, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
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