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The result was keep. If I am erring, then on the side of caution--inclusion. Final contribution to the AfD gives some indication of notability.
Drmies (
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15:04, 12 July 2014 (UTC)reply
Delete. I didn't find significant coverage in independent reliable sources to establish notability through
general notability guidelines, didn't meet any of the criteria listed for
notability of academics. He's widely published, having co-authored around 50 papers in Google Scholar, mostly in conference proceedings, but at least a couple articles were in journals or books; the most widely cited had 85 citations listed in Google Scholar. If Debian were an academic organization or scolarly journal, then being director would meet academic notability, but it's not. Another test is if "the person has made substantial impact outside academia in their academic capacity"; in this case, he's a professor of computer science, and helping the Debian project is related to that field, but I'm not really sure how to judge his impact. Since independent reliable source coverage is lacking, there's not really any objective measure of his impact. While I'm sure he had some impact, I don't know how active the organization is or how involved the directorship is, so judging significance is difficult. His
Linked In profile includes a couple board positions as well, but nothing really leaps out as meeting Wikipedia's notability guidelines.
Keep Previous AfD was a strong keep and the factors there appear to still be valid. Indeed, it's unclear why a second AfD is appropriate. In addition, he is now an elected director of the Open Source Initiative, which is notable in itself.
ClareTheSharer (
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21:12, 24 June 2014 (UTC)reply
WP:GNG says "from time to time, a reassessment of the evidence of notability or suitability of existing articles may be requested by any user"; the previous AfD was four years ago. I read the previous discussion, and disagreed with the reasoning presented. Of 6 keep votes, 1 gave no reason, 2 said only that a Debian project leader is notable (kind of like your OSI director statement) without suggesting how that met Wikipedia's notability guidelines, 1 listed five short (1-3 paragraph) articles about the election that I wouldn't consider significant coverage, and two listed Linux Today and IT Wire coverage. The only
Linux Today article I found has just three one-sentence paragraphs, which isn't significant. The
IT Wire article I overlooked, as it's listed as an opinion piece with a prominent disclaimer disavowing its content; I'm a bit conflicted about accepting interviews as independent RS's for notability purposes, but even allowing it, IT Wire seems to be the only source like that.
Agyle (
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23:20, 24 June 2014 (UTC)reply
Comment. The reason why the first AfD was kept may be because it went to only one forum (list of Software-related deletion discussions).
Xxanthippe (
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22:34, 24 June 2014 (UTC).reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Delete and Redirect I think unless more significant sources are found, subject fails
WP:GNG and it would be appropriate to link people to the Debian page as per Joe's comment.
Keep notability is cumulative; if Debian leader and OSI director are not notable enough in isolation (IMO they are), having covered both roles is certainly notable. Then, the man seems to be well known in open source at large, not only Debian. For instance,
LWN.net has covered his doings fairly often, e.g.
1,
2,
3, more at
4. Finally, he seems to be quite popular here in Italy (e.g.
interview for
La Repubblicaradio interview on
Rai Radio 2,
Wired, and other recent articles on
la presse,
Corriere Della Sera5, and
Il Manifesto6) and France (
7,
8,
9)
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