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The result was merge to Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (film). ✗ plicit 01:55, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
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I don't think this meets WP:NALBUM. Practically all of the sources used in the article are either unreliable or situational (which usually can't be used for notability). Film Music Reporter usually isn't reliable as per this discussion. Screen Rant cannot be used to demonstrate notability per WP:VG/S. Doing a WP:BEFORE check, I don't see any reliable sources that specifically covers the soundtrack. Pizzaplayer219 Talk Contribs 23:35, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Film, Music, and Video games. Pizzaplayer219 Talk Contribs 23:35, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
- Merge back to film article. Very little to be said beyond a track list and an exhaustive list of "Songs that aren't on the soundtrack but appear in the movie anyways" which doesn't really fit the scope of such a spin out article. Sergecross73 msg me 00:36, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
- Keep You have reviews of the soundtrack (like this one), but particular songs or aspects of the score are mentioned in the film reviews. Lilke Roger Ebert's for example, who did not like particularly the film but states:
- "Parents will enjoy some retro songs harking back to their middle school days like “ It’s Tricky” or “ This is How We Do It.” Grandparents are not overlooked; the soundtrack also features Andy Williams and Norah Jones."
- So, yes, this soundtrack is quite notable, overall or for
particular songs, and even the original score can be
sourced. And a dedicated page was therefore a good idea, as there is material to write a good page.—
MY, OH, MY!
09:06, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
- "Zanoboard Reviews" is not a reliable source source, and passing mentions from movie reviews is a pretty weak argument for splitting out an article like this. This isn't much of an argument for independent notability. Sergecross73 msg me 10:58, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
- Newsweek articles from 2013–present are generally unreliable per
WP:NEWSWEEK. I'm not sure about Theprp.com as a reliable source but it doesn't seem to have a lot on
it's about us page. Also, please don't edit my nomination reasoning as you did
here.
Pizzaplayer219
Talk
Contribs
12:21, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
- What the PRP is to the music world is probably on par with what the screenrants, gamerants, and thegamers websites are to the video game world - situationally usable but not an ideal source or much of an argument for notability. Sergecross73 msg me 13:52, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
- Merge To film article. It's not really notable outside of the film. Blitzfan51 the manager 13:47, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
- Reply:Just replying here to User:Pizzaplayer219 on the last part of their comment above: the insertion by me of a link in your text was obviously unintentional and I did not mean to edit anything in your text. But, as I said in reply to the template you left on my tp, sincerely sorry for that. 17:53, 18 May 2023 (UTC)— MY, OH, MY!
- Comment: While I am it: there is also have
this review of the soundtrack( in French), for example, and their site is quite reliable. Independently, the size of the main article (film) plus the fact that the page on the soundtrack has a partially list-like format would make, if remerged, the page not easily readable (let alone convenient to expand). I am sure it is not necessary to direct anyone to WP pages about this. —
MY, OH, MY!
17:53, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
- What are their credentials for being reliable? Sergecross73 msg me 19:20, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
- Merge I wanted to !vote Keep, but the sourcing isn't there. I guess it wasn't as impactful as the first film's soundtrack. QuicoleJR ( talk) 21:02, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
- Comment No opinion here, but I'd like to note that Film Music Reporter is considered a reliable source, and is used on many high-quality articles (including GAs and FAs).
InfiniteNexus (
talk)
18:25, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
- Is that a film thing then? It isn't listed at
WP:RSMUSIC.
Sergecross73
msg me
01:59, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
- I don't know if there have been any actual discussions, but there is certainly WP:IMPLICITCONSENSUS for this, at least on film articles. It's usually only used to source track listing and album release dates anyway, which I assume they directly get from the studios/labels. Essentially, they're a press release outlet. (Can't be used to prove notability, obviously.) InfiniteNexus ( talk) 17:26, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
- Is that a film thing then? It isn't listed at
WP:RSMUSIC.
Sergecross73
msg me
01:59, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per above. AryKun ( talk) 06:53, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
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