The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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The result was no consensus. This never should have been on AfD because the proposal wasn't to delete, it was to merge or redirect. That conversation should have taken place on the article's talk page, in a much lighter-weight process than AfD. Be that as it may, opinion here is all over the map; there's no consensus to do anything in particular. --
RoySmith(talk)00:21, 14 December 2015 (UTC)reply
Keep. We actually have many articles about historical figures'
childhoods,
love-lives,
families, and, yes, even
their sexuality. Having separate articles for multiple sections of a notable figure's life allows to provide a more detailed analysis, without having to clog up the main article. I would suggest withdrawing the nomination, as the article's topic has been covered by a range of sources and thus clearly meets the
WP:GNG. IgnorantArmies(talk)09:46, 6 December 2015 (UTC)reply
Keep - The article needs lots of work, but the subject has certainly been debated and discussed frequently enough and in enough depth to warrant a separate article.
Fyddlestix (
talk)
15:48, 6 December 2015 (UTC)reply
Delete -- While this is based (apparently) on an academic source, it strikes me that the academic in question has been guilty of the kind of original research that WP deplores. We have a long exploration of the historiography of the subject based on very little substantive evidence, mostly on speculations undertaken long after the event, probably by people with an agenda that they wanted to push. If this is something that is seriously discussed, it might warrant a couple of sentences in the main bio-article, but such speculation is essentially non-encyclopaedic.
Peterkingiron (
talk)
16:47, 6 December 2015 (UTC)reply
The
original research that Wikipedia deplores is explicitly limited to that of editors. If it's been published, the concept of original research is irrelevant. People's agendas and historiography are likewise irrelevant to whether or not a topic is notable, which is determined only by the extent to which it is covered by
reliable sources. So if the sources we would otherwise rely on for notability of this topic -- and justification of a stand-alone article -- are not reliable (and I haven't yet looked closely myself), that's one thing, but these other things aren't reasons for deletion. — Rhododendritestalk \\
17:01, 6 December 2015 (UTC)reply
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