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The result was delete. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 14:38, 15 February 2017 (UTC) reply

S. Dallas Dance

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Highly promotional resume-style article. Sure, he gets a few mentions in the paper, but that's to be expected given his position. The position, as far as I know, in no way guarantees inherent nobility on Wikipedia, and I see no reason to accept that this particular is notable via the GNG or otherwise; all the coverage is just about a man doing his job, no in-depth discussion that makes him notable. Drmies ( talk) 17:31, 3 February 2017 (UTC) reply

• I just noticed that this had been nominated before; I am not at all convinced that the coverage brought up there makes him notable. Being interviewed in a documentary is not in-depth discussion though it may point at some kind of notability--and being appointed to an advisory committee is, I'm sorry to say, not as special as one might think. I note also that (in response to NinjaRobotPirate) yes, the Baltimore Sun is a good paper of national standing, but not of national distribution, and that the coverage of Dance in that paper is of the regional kind. (Lots of folks get recognized by the president; it takes national coverage to really make that newsworthy.) Same with links posted there by Jreferee: I see three links to newspaper articles, and those are all papers from the area--in other words, it's routine coverage, as is suggested in comments by John from Idegon, Onel5969, RoySmith, Cullen328 (I think I pinged everyone from the first AfD). Oh, and I know there was a tweet last year that generated some minor coverage, but that also doesn't convince me. Everyone tweets, and retweets, and gets criticized, and on and on. Well, everyone except Cullen, who can't tweet from his rotary phone. Drmies ( talk) 17:39, 3 February 2017 (UTC) reply
• Delete No importance,promotional,Many superedents in the world doings works world wide,it is not the dircctory for superendents,strongly suggesting delete ( Kalidas100 ( talk) 17:44, 3 February 2017 (UTC))> reply
• Keep -

  He's not really a politician, he's a notable school district superintendent who has been personally recognized by the  President of the United States and is consistently on Baltimore news sources.  The StormCatcher  (talk)  (contribs) 08:22, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

  Wiki-Coffee ^Talk 18:13, 3 February 2017 (UTC) reply
• Well, here's some more sources: [1] from American School & University (but I lost my access to Highbeam and can't read it), [2] from Education Week, [3] from The Washington Post. NinjaRobotPirate ( talk) 18:23, 3 February 2017 (UTC) reply
• Delete An article with no use ,for author and viewers ,speedy is better option ( Jetflightusa ( talk) 19:06, 3 February 2017 (UTC)) — Jetflightusa ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. — Jetflightusa ( talk • contribs) is a confirmed sock puppet of Nsmutte ( talk • contribs). –  Note: Struck above comment from blocked sock per WP:SOCKSTRIKE. — Sam Sailor 22:27, 3 February 2017 (UTC) reply

Jetflightusa I don't think this article meets any CSD criteria. CatcherStorm ^talk 19:16, 3 February 2017 (UTC) reply

User:CatcherStorm, at the risk of being redundant, you are absolutely correct: speedy would be incredibly inappropriate here. Drmies ( talk) 05:50, 5 February 2017 (UTC) reply

• Keep Several sources have been found, there is a reason the first discussion ended in a keep. The person has been personally appointed by Barack Obama. For reference here are Jreferee's references that he provided from the previous AfD, which was closed as keep.

• Students deserve equity \ S. Dallas Dance: 'We cannot let demographics continue to predict our students' performance
• S. Dallas Dance appointed to federal commission on African American education
• ISTE board member S. Dallas Dance named “20 to Watch” honoree by the National School Boards Association
• Baltimore County selects Dance as next school superintendent
• S. Dallas Dance recognized by President Obama as "Champion of Change"
• New Principal 'Very Blessed' At 24, Dance Named To Oversee Henrico's Brookland Middle. Richmond Times Dispatch July 15, 2005

Non notable people do not get recognized by the President of the United States. CatcherStorm ^talk 19:19, 3 February 2017 (UTC) reply

• Delete - fails GNG and NPOL. And yes he's a politician, not being an elected politician doesn't mean he's not a politician. Not a single source provided above speaks to notability except perhaps the Sun. The Sun is local, ITSE is not independent, no indication districtadministration is a reliable source (trade association publications generally aren't), the thing from highbeam is a press release. Can't make any analysis of the Richmond paper reference, but I do not see any discussion in detail in reliable sources totally independent of the subject that is needed here. And the contention that being mentioned by the President equates to inherent notability is laughable. John from Idegon ( talk) 23:19, 3 February 2017 (UTC) reply
  • And I'd also add that the same user voting twice using different signatures, coupled with all the sock votes screams WP:PAID. I've struck CatcherStorm's second vote and I believe some explanation is needed for that behavior. John from Idegon ( talk) 23:25, 3 February 2017 (UTC) reply
    •  Comment: @ John from Idegon: I would like to just mention here that Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia and not a place for asserting your views as absolutes unless you provide merit for those views. For example, you have enthusiastically engaged Catcher with saying “And the contention that being mentioned by the President equates to inherent notability is laughable.” To who is it laughable and do you have consensus for this notion? You have then gone onto attacking Catcher by saying “And I'd also add that the same user voting twice using different signatures, coupled with all the sock votes screams WP:PAID” this is a serious accusation and should at the least be merited in the behaviour of the person who you are attacking with it. It might be worth remembering that Wikipedia is a place with many different views and just because others might not share your own it does not give you leave to start going out of your way to invalidate the opinion of others. This type of carry-on leads inevitably, as proven here, to one making rash and non-objective decisions based on dogma rather than actual facts. Wiki-Coffee ^Talk 11:51, 4 February 2017 (UTC) reply

Indeed! Paul August ☎ 16:51, 4 February 2017 (UTC) reply

John from Idegon, you are gravely mistaken. The second vote you are referring to with the two different signatures was from a quote that WikiCoffee used. WikiCoffee quoted my previous comment from the first nomination when I had a different signature. I think that having been here for three years I would know the rules of ASD. I did not vote using two different signatures. Please look back at what I am referring to, for I do not wish to have false action taken against me. CatcherStorm ^talk 02:40, 4 February 2017 (UTC) reply

• Keep. Seems notable enough for me. Paul August ☎ 16:56, 4 February 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Paul August, inquiring minds want to know about notability... Drmies ( talk) 05:50, 5 February 2017 (UTC) reply

Notability, like beauty, is in the eye of the heholder. Paul August ☎ 12:47, 5 February 2017 (UTC) reply

• Delete - Reliable source coverage is routine and limited in scope to the Baltimore area. The "nominated by the president" bit is just a naming to the President’s Advisory Commission on Educational Excellence for African Americans (this doesn't count a s a source since it's a press release) committee, 1 out of 25. TheValeyard ( talk) 02:01, 5 February 2017 (UTC) reply
• Delete - I can see nothing notable in this article. This is a County Schools superintendent. Probably does an excellent job, but not notable by Wikipedia's rules.  Velella   ^{Velella Talk}   02:06, 5 February 2017 (UTC) reply
• Delete While seeming like a very notable school superintendent and individual (meant sincerely), I don't see WP:NOTABILITY being met enough to merit a Wikipedia article. First Light ( talk) 09:31, 5 February 2017 (UTC) reply

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• Delete. Cases like this are a little vague because, while the position this person holds is "important", it is by nature "local" and not notable per se. In doing some perusing, it seems we generally do not have articles on superintendents of large districts, even when mentioned by name, except in cases like Barbara Byrd-Bennett when there's notability/notoriety for additional reasons. Agricola44 ( talk) 20:44, 13 February 2017 (UTC). reply
• Delete. Evidence of notability lacking. Xxanthippe ( talk) 03:05, 15 February 2017 (UTC). reply

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