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The result was delete. Sandstein 06:59, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
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Non-notable mayor who only received coverage in reliable sources for calling London's mayor a "terrorist". Meatsgains( talk) 01:02, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
- Keep as has been Mayor of Hagerstown (which ranks as Maryland's sixth largest incorporated city) multiple times; also commonly "Local politicians whose office would not ordinarily be considered notable may still clear the bar [for notability] if they have received national or international press coverage, beyond the scope of what would ordinarily be expected for their role." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Btyner ( talk • contribs) 02:47, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
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- Delete. The politician received brief coverage for one event, and the event (a social media post) wouldn't even warrant its own Wikipedia article. At this time, this person is not notable enough to clear WP:BASIC or WP:NPOL. Newslinger ( talk) 08:25, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
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The mayor of Annapolis, Maryland merits an article, and Annapolis is smaller than Hagerstown. Therefore, even in the absence of media coverage, the mayor of Hagerstown should be at least as notable as the mayor of Annapolis;
News coverage does not decrease notability. If this article had been created a week ago, there would likely be no debate as to notability.
Btyner (
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21:49, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
- Our notability criteria for mayors is not based on an arbitrary population cutoff — it's based on whether the sources enable us to write a substantive article (as opposed to just "he is a mayor who said something stupid once, the end".) Also, please read WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS: just because an article exists about somebody else doesn't mean it necessarily should — so the existence of any article is not prima facie evidence in favour of or against the includability of any other article. Bearcat ( talk) 12:26, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
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The mayor of Annapolis, Maryland merits an article, and Annapolis is smaller than Hagerstown. Therefore, even in the absence of media coverage, the mayor of Hagerstown should be at least as notable as the mayor of Annapolis;
News coverage does not decrease notability. If this article had been created a week ago, there would likely be no debate as to notability.
Btyner (
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21:49, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
- Delete. A single WP:BLP1E article about a mayor saying a dumb thing is not, in and of itself, enough coverage to get him over WP:NPOL #2. If the article were sourced well enough to be genuinely substantive, that would be a different story — but this, as written, is not enough to make him includable. Our inclusion test for mayors is based on the sourcing, not the city's population. If somebody wants to nominate Gavin Buckley in response to Btyner's misguided OTHERSTUFFEXISTS argument, then I'd happily vote to delete there as well, because he's not sourced well enough either. Bearcat ( talk) 12:26, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
- Delete mayors do not automatically get a notability waiver even where they serve a city with a substantial population, and here there's only one source and that source has WP:BLP1E concerns. Clear delete. SportingFlyer talk 21:11, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
- I've removed (commented out) the section/reference with BLP1E concerns, added a different reference (the official website) and tagged it as a stub. Better?
Btyner (
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03:15, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
- The official website is a primary source, so no, it doesn't help for notability reasons - and I don't see any sources which might help save him from a WP:BEFORE search. SportingFlyer talk 05:13, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
- I've removed (commented out) the section/reference with BLP1E concerns, added a different reference (the official website) and tagged it as a stub. Better?
Btyner (
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03:15, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
- Delete mayors do not get automatically notability in cities this size, and the article itself provides undue weight to a minor post written on facebook. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 01:44, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
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