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The result was no consensus. ( WP:NPASR). ( Non-administrator closure) NorthAmerica ¹⁰⁰⁰ 15:25, 9 October 2014 (UTC) reply

Prasuton Manorah (TV series)

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Doesn't seem to meet WP:NOTABILITY criteria. It has no Thai-language article and I don't read Thai, so there may be something I'm missing, which is why I chose AfD rather than prod. As it is an orphaned page, I couldn't propose a possible redirect title. Boleyn ( talk) 11:59, 13 September 2014 (UTC) reply

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. NorthAmerica ¹⁰⁰⁰ 13:51, 13 September 2014 (UTC) reply

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Thailand-related deletion discussions. NorthAmerica ¹⁰⁰⁰ 13:52, 13 September 2014 (UTC) reply

• Keep The TV series is quite old. Good references to establish notability would be old newspapers ( Thai Rath, etc.). Googling "บี มาติกา มโนราห์" (the famous actress+series name) will lead to Youtube video of the series, forum topics with old photos from series, and sites selling DVD of the complete series. -- Lerdsuwa ( talk) 14:20, 16 September 2014 (UTC) reply
• Comment It may be on Youtube, and there may be DVDs of it, but neither of these indicate notability. It is also important that its notability is WP:V verifiable. Are you able to verify its notability? It has been tagged for more than six years for notability, and no one has come up with sources to verify it in that time. Boleyn ( talk) 18:07, 16 September 2014 (UTC) reply
• Comment: Although most of their representation in Wikipedia isn't well-written, Thai television soap operas generally receive a good deal of independent coverage in the media. I would expect any prime-time soap opera to have lots of entertainment news coverage during the period of its production and broadcast, therefore establishing notability per the WP:GNG. Since this one is from 2002, most of the coverage wouldn't likely exist online, but one should be able to locate them in newspaper archives, should one wish to. -- Paul_012 ( talk) 15:01, 19 September 2014 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica ¹⁰⁰⁰ 12:22, 23 September 2014 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica ¹⁰⁰⁰ 10:29, 1 October 2014 (UTC) reply

• Keep - This is a tricky one. I can't read or understand Thai, so a search would be somehow meaningless, but my search, for the most part, gave me unrelated stuff. However, the series is from 2002, long enough to be a period where any online coverage, if there are any, would possibly be dead by now. The thing is, it aired on a national channel, and apparently at a primetime slot too, which should be enough to establish notability. Given that we must counter systemic bias, I believe that some leeway should be given, and thus, lower standards should be given for non-English series such as this. Narutolovehinata5 ^{t c csd new} 03:09, 5 October 2014 (UTC) reply

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