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Political candidate with no reliable third party sources indicating notability. Fails
WP:POLITICIAN: unelected politicians are generally not regarded as notable merely for standing as candidates but must have reliable sources independent of their candidacy.
Tassedethe (
talk) 16:42, 5 September 2016 (UTC)reply
For consideration of Mr. Stanton being a notable CANDIDATE, I submit that he is the first Libertarian senatorial candidate to participate in a state-wide primary. True, that isn't independant of his candidacy, but it is historical significant.
PaulNeb86 (
talk) 20:59, 12 September 2016 (UTC)reply
So would I be correct in saying that I only need to find independent sources indicating that he's a notable candidate? --
TheRealAlecHolbeck (
talk) 18:04, 5 September 2016 (UTC)reply
In general political candidates need sourcing to show notability that does not arise from their candidacy i.e. they would be notable even without standing as a candidate. Sources related to the election (candidate profiles, political reporting etc.) are not usually enough to confer notability. But there can be exceptions...
Tassedethe (
talk) 18:19, 5 September 2016 (UTC)reply
Mr. Stanton will be in the polls, if he performs well enough to make the Florida Senate debate would that be an acceptable exception? --
TheRealAlecHolbeck (
talk) 18:57, 5 September 2016 (UTC)reply
The guidelines at
WP:POLITICIAN (and
WP:POLOUTCOMES) don't suggest that making a debate would make someone automatically notable. A decision would be made on the quality of sources, and by the discussion here.
Tassedethe (
talk) 20:38, 5 September 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete. Fails
WP:GNG. A Libertarian candidate for the US Senate w/ less than 3K votes in the party's primary isn't going to get much coverage.
Clarityfiend (
talk) 23:57, 5 September 2016 (UTC)reply
Coverage doesn't hold a match to inclusion in the polls, and I think the simple fact that he is the first third party Senate candidate from Florida in about 100 years makes him notable, especially if he qualifies for debates. The debate criteria is 9%, and if he makes that in the first three polls I think he should stay, as it would mean he would very likely perform well in the Senate election. --
TheRealAlecHolbeck (
talk) 00:45, 6 September 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete - no significant, in-depth, reliable third-party coverage indicating notability.
Neutralitytalk 04:00, 6 September 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete. An as yet unelected candidate for office does not get a Wikipedia article just for winning his primary, or even for getting into the debates — if you cannot demonstrate and source credible proof that they were already eligible for an article for some other reason independent of their candidacy (e.g. preexisting notability as an actor, a sports figure, a musician, a writer, a holder of a different notable office, etc.), then they have to win the election, not merely run in it, to collect notability because of the election itself. And for added bonus, this is written like a campaign brochure, not an encyclopedia article, and even incumbent officeholders don't get to keep that kind of article.
Bearcat (
talk) 21:24, 6 September 2016 (UTC)reply
I added a section about Mr. Stanton's notable airport lawsuit that determined a federal law banning the distribution of the Constitution in airports and defined airports as not public. --Alec Holbeck 00:00, 7 September 2016 (UTC) — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
TheRealAlecHolbeck (
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Delete, not notable in military service, fails "Soldier" and at this point, not notable as a politician so fails GNG.
Kierzek (
talk) 16:11, 9 September 2016 (UTC)reply
Keep. I have added several sources and tried to make the tone more neutral. Stanton was in the news in 2011 for his TSA protest and lawsuit, and again this year for running for Senate and winning the Libertarian primary.
Galaxiaad (
talk) 04:29, 12 September 2016 (UTC)reply
Keep based on polling in the upper single digits in the third largest state's US Senate election, he's
notable enough. The airport lawsuit was not notable, FWIW.
Bearian (
talk) 19:26, 12 September 2016 (UTC)reply
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