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Although there are six games in the series. The series is really made up of a trilogy of PSP games that mostly were ported onto PS4 with the exception of the final one. The rest are promotional web browser games that are covered in the respected articles they promote. Overall, three mainline entries isn't enough to make a whole series and
Patapon (video game) does a good job at covering the sequels. If consensus agrees to delete, we can also move that article to "Patapon".
Blue Pumpkin Pie (
talk)
19:21, 20 June 2021 (UTC)reply
Weak keep I am fully aware that this is a series article and not the article on the actual game Patapon, but I think this article is necessary. There are many, many reviews for Patapon 1 and 2 Remastered, making them "separate" games that the article should be updated to contain. If it was only the PSP games, then I'd probably vote to delete.ZXCVBNM (
TALK)23:13, 20 June 2021 (UTC)reply
It seems like a stretch to try to cover them as separate games. Even if each three entries in the series have a remaster (2 so far), how much can we really expand a series article? They're not really separate games, just ports. In Japan they're not even called remasters.
Blue Pumpkin Pie (
talk)
18:08, 21 June 2021 (UTC)reply
Keep As far as I am aware, according to the general consensus of the VG Wikiproject, the minimum threshold for a franchise page/series overview page should be 3 games. There are 3 unique games in the series so far; just because "
Patapon (video game) does a good job at covering the sequels", doesn't mean it needs to do so when the sequels and each of their ports/remasters already have sufficient coverage.
Haleth (
talk)
08:30, 23 June 2021 (UTC)reply
Keep As said above, according to what VG Wikiproject sees as a series, three games meet the requirements. And perhaps in the future more entries would follow.
Sykess (
talk)
10:21, 23 June 2021 (UTC)reply
I am not sure why you left redlinks here, instead of a relevant discussion which resulted in the articles no longer existing. I can't see any record of a page and its talk page being deleted as a result of an AfD or abandoned draft. As for
Life Is Strange (series), the article exists. Where is the discussion showing a consensus that it's been rejected for not having more then 3 games?
Haleth (
talk)
14:05, 23 June 2021 (UTC)reply
Comment - Please note that
WP:VG's stance about "3 games is enough for a series article" is merely the absolute minimum requirement. Failing it is an "auto-fail", but passing it is certain not an "auto-pass". It's just the lowest hurdle to overcome. So stances should really be based on more than "there are three games in the series". It should really be about if there's enough content from reliables sources that covers the series specifically that doesn't really fit into the scope of the separate games. (I haven't checked enough to weigh in on that yet.)
Sergecross73msg me15:15, 23 June 2021 (UTC)reply
Delete. The page, as it stands, is quite short, and while it is not an auto-fail as Sergecross notes, it is not an auto-pass either. The article does not really justify it standing alone. -
Bryn(talk)(contributions)18:14, 23 June 2021 (UTC)reply
Delete per Abryn. The "3 entries is a series" mantra is just a rule of thumb. The mere existence of 3 entries is not by itself enough to justify a series article. It needs development info, it needs reception, it needs specific coverage as a series. I don't see that at the current article. Maybe it exists, maybe it doesn't. We do not and should not rubber-stamp every series that reaches three entries for automatic independent notability.
Axem Titanium (
talk)
18:46, 23 June 2021 (UTC)reply
Merge and redirect to
Patapon (video game) (and then move that article to here). There's no connective glue to tie the games together beyond that they're in a series, and that can be documented in a section in the first game's article. If there was historical development section that said how one game led to the development of the next, that might be a reason to keep but that's just not there. The "3 games" is a necessary but not sufficient reason to have a series article. --
Masem (
t)
15:49, 24 June 2021 (UTC)reply
Delete and Redirect - There's not enough here to warrant a stand alone article. It's a paragraph about each title's basic release data. It's completely redundant to what in each game's individual article. I'm not opposed to recreation if someone, let's say, tripled the size (its small) with reliably sourced commentary about the series as a whole. But as is, it's completely redundant.
Sergecross73msg me15:57, 24 June 2021 (UTC)reply
Delete. I don't see anything worth merging—mostly summaries of the existing sequel articles. Merge from those existing sequel articles into the Legacy section of
Patapon (video game), which should then be moved to
Patapon as the
primary topic. In the absence of dedicated (
GNG) of the series unto itself, the proper route is to build the "series article"
summary style within the main series entry's Legacy section. (not
watching, please {{ping}}) czar19:41, 26 June 2021 (UTC)reply
Delete In response to many of the keep votes, three games is a requirement but not justification for series articles. There is not much sources say about the series as a whole, and like the nom said, is better to summarize in the first game's legacy section. To the closer: just make sure
Patapon (video game) gets moved under this name.
TarkusABtalk/
contrib01:30, 3 July 2021 (UTC)reply
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