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The result was delete. Vanamonde ( Talk) 02:27, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
Outskirts Press
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Most of the sources used in the article are press releases and paid-for articles. Searching on google, there are barely any reliable sources discussing the company, except for more PR. Isabelle 🏳🌈 15:48, 18 September 2022 (UTC) note: a previous AfD happened under a differente title, at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Outskirts press. Isabelle 🏳🌈 15:50, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Literature and Companies. Isabelle 🏳🌈 15:48, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Colorado-related deletion discussions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 16:23, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
- delete Agree, non-PR sources not found. GNG not met. Oaktree b ( talk) 23:52, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 16:59, 25 September 2022 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: As the nomination states, this article came to AFD under a slightly different title, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Outskirts press.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 17:20, 2 October 2022 (UTC)- Keep
- In the interest of full disclosure, I am the CEO of Outskirts Press. However, having been an active part of the evolving self-publishing field for the last 20 years, I hope my thoughts on this topic have some value here.
- According to the official and widely recognized whois.com registration record, OutskirtsPress.com has been a participant in the self-publishing field since September 2002, which is longer than many of the self-publishing companies listed in Wikipedia’s VTE self-publishing template including Blurb, FastPencil, Notion Press, FriesensPress, Self Publish Be Happy, Smashwords, and Wattpad.
- While it’s true Outskirts Press has three PRWeb links listed as reference sources, there are more links from legitimately recognized sources, including two articles from The Denver Business Journal, Inc. Magazine, The Globe and Mail, and Reuters. A review of the companies listed in Wikipedia’s self-publishing template reveals that the number of outside-source reference articles on most of their pages is on par with the number shown on the Outskirts Press page (once sources considered too closely associated with the subject have been removed). Which indicates that we are at least as relevant to the self-publishing field as they are.
- Often in the self-publishing industry the success of a publisher is defined not by its own newsworthy successes but by that of its authors. Outskirts Press has been a significant contributor to the self-publishing field for 20 years; publishing over 24,000 books during that time (as indicated by the Book Depository). Our authors have gone on to win hundreds of awards, have movies made from their books, make appearances on TV and countless other amazing accomplishments—all made possible by Outskirts Press. As such, it seems like our inclusion in Wikipedia’s effort to provide a compendium of knowledge on the evolving field of self-publishing is more than appropriate.
- Thank you for allowing me to participate in this conversation and I would be happy to provide any information you require in your evaluation process.~~~ JMSdesign ( talk) 22:46, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
- Delete Nothing in terms of significant coverage apart from mentions from the Robert Pickton stuff, and that coverage really focuses on Pickton. Best, GPL93 ( talk) 17:38, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:SERIESA. The scandal about Pickton's book should go in the article about him. This is otherwise promotional and the company doesn't generate nearly enough press to be notable, and then on top of that there's COI. FalconK ( talk) 22:54, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
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