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How do you know that this software is not notable? You did not present any notability analysis -- for example, number of downloads, comparison in popularity to alternative products. You just stated that this software does not seem notable to you. That's not enough. Data are needed.
SA ru (
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22:32, 24 September 2009 (UTC)reply
None of that shows notability. I said that I couldn't find significant coverage in reliable sources. Read
WP:N and
WP:RS. This nomination has nothing to do with my personal opinion (nothing that I do on Wikipedia does).
Joe Chill (
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22:34, 24 September 2009 (UTC)reply
Didn't you find
141,000 Web pages through Google? I've looked at the references you provided, but these recommendations seem very vague. This software is listed in numerous software reference sources. The reason to discriminate against it should be quantitative (number of downloads, etc.).
SA ru (
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22:53, 24 September 2009 (UTC)reply
I did multiple searches for sources when you posted that and I didn't see significant coverage, but I would never nominate an article that someone points out in AFD because that is very bitey.
Joe Chill (
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02:03, 25 September 2009 (UTC)reply
I can understand that. However, with such position there is no chance for "KDE software" category to become complete. As the result, nobody will be interested in this category, and people will search for the information about KDE software elsewhere.
SA ru (
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02:09, 25 September 2009 (UTC)reply
Wikipedia does not strive to be all things for all people. If people need to go to the Softpedia, or whatever site wants to host endless numbers of articles on every piece of software ever written that is no skin off the back of Wikipedia. This information can be better described on sites with looser policies than what Wikipedia requires for sourcing and notability.
Miami33139 (
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15:07, 25 September 2009 (UTC)reply
From reading this discussion, it seems that Wikipedia does not have a notability policy for software at all. I really do not understand what you are trying to discuss here without any criteria specific for software.
SA ru (
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18:37, 25 September 2009 (UTC)reply
I don't know, I haven't read that article. I was commenting on what I believe to be the notability of this article which has nothing to do with any other article. ~~ GB fan ~~talk01:43, 25 September 2009 (UTC)reply
I respectively disagree. Both articles belong to the same category ("KDE software"). Therefore they have something to do with each other. Perhaps, notability criteria for different types of KDE software should be discussed instead of one item taken in isolation.
SA ru (
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01:54, 25 September 2009 (UTC)reply
Every software has different notability. Do you want someone to do a big bundle nomination that will cause many users to be mad because big bundle nominations cause a lot of trouble and makes it so that there isn't a concensus because each software has different notability so that the discussion closes early without anything happening?
Joe Chill (
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01:58, 25 September 2009 (UTC)reply
No, I do not want that. It just makes sense to me to describe all available KDE software without omissions. This would make the description complete. And this is just my personal opinion.
SA ru (
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02:05, 25 September 2009 (UTC)reply
I would agree with that if you formulated it as: Every article should be reviewed on its own merits. However, reviewing articles in complete isolation (as if other articles do not exist) does not make much sense. For instance, this particular software may not be very notable, but KDE is obviously notable, and a simple requirement for KDE description to be complete may necessitate this article.
SA ru (
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02:21, 25 September 2009 (UTC)reply
It doesn't right now but there really isn't any reason why it can't. I was somewhat surprised that we didn't have a comparison article for this genre of software though. --
Tothwolf (
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01:55, 25 September 2009 (UTC)reply
Delete and oppose redirect This is truly minuscule. Even a redirect gives this more exposure than it needs, why should Wikipedia become a promotion vehicle?
Miami33139 (
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04:34, 25 September 2009 (UTC)reply
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