The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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The result was redirect to
Oliver Fish. There is consensus to not keep this article, but there is no consensus to either delete or merge it. Redirection is a compromise, allowing content to be merged from the history if desired. Sandstein 19:36, 5 January 2020 (UTC)reply
Now that's new. Not only we have a separate articles about fictional characters (twins)
Oliver Fish and
Kyle Lewis but we also have this article about them as a duo. Three is a bit too much, wouldn't you say so? References don't seem to support the notability of the duo (fails GNG). Delete or make into a disambig between those two (through KL is in such a poor shape that I prodded it anyway...)? Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus|
reply here04:01, 20 December 2019 (UTC)reply
Keep. A notable couple in maybe the longest running soap opera on tv. Nom says they are prodding the very article this content would be merged to! If the content should be kept, it should; and the only debate is where to keep it, it is; then this was never a good AfD subject.
This should definitely be merged with
Oliver Fish because of the large overlap, but I am not sure which one shall be the merge target (the prodded
Kyle Lewis has major PLOT issues and therefore seems out of the race). Since the characters' sexuality and relationship seem to be the reason why these characters are discussed at all by reliable sources, my argument would be to only leave this duo article up, or (one step further) merge it altogether into a parent article (I'd say
One Life to Live storylines (2000–2013), if it wasn't ALLPLOT and hence AfD-prone itself). –
sgeurekat•
c14:20, 20 December 2019 (UTC)reply
Delete There are rare cases where a fictional couple is notable, such as
Superman and Lois Lane. However this involves a couple who have existed in an active publication comic book for 81 years, who were shown on a date (well as Clark Kent and Lois Lane) in the very first iteration of that comic, whose marriage in the comic in 1996 was coordinated with their marriage on a TV show, who have been portrayed in at least 4 live action TV series (including the Arrowverse), 4 different live action films, and multiple animated TV series. That is the level of saturation you need to justify an article on two individuals who already have seperate articles, we do not have that here by any stretch of the imagination.
John Pack Lambert (
talk)
15:06, 20 December 2019 (UTC)reply
Merge. I do believe this content should be merged with the
Oliver Fish and
Kyle Lewis pages and that a standalone page for the two of them together isn't necessary; though I also think the PROD that
Piotrus added to
Kyle Lewis should be removed at least until a merge can be attempted. If at that point it still appears Kyle Lewis isn't notable, an AFD discussion can be held at that point.
Gleeanon409 suggestion about an RfC about all three subjects might also be a good way to go here... —
HunterKahn15:50, 20 December 2019 (UTC)reply
Keep or Merge, probably with
Oliver Fish. The rise and fall of gay storylines on soap operas is an interesting reflection of changing cultural attitudes towards LGBT people in America.
Toughpigs (
talk)
21:09, 21 December 2019 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Given that one of the articles has been deleted, some more discussion on what should be done would be good.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Callanecc (
talk •
contribs •
logs)
05:47, 29 December 2019 (UTC)reply
Delete outright on the basis of the nomination and the comments above. This is the sensible choice, instead of merging or redirecting. -
The Gnome (
talk)
00:25, 30 December 2019 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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