The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
This article was created in 2009 and does not yet have a single reference. I did a brief search and did not find anything other than mirrors of Wikipedia.
S Philbrick(Talk) 13:57, 22 April 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete. An unelected political candidate does not get a Wikipedia article just for the fact of being a candidate — if you cannot demonstrate and
properly source that he was already notable enough for an article for some other reason besides his candidacy itself, then he must win the election, not merely run in it, to be considered notable because election per se. But this contains no sourcing, nor even any substance that suggests that a preexisting notability claim would even be possible.
Bearcat (
talk) 05:09, 24 April 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete. Not only do I agree with the above comments, but a walk through the earliest versions of the article leaves me with the feeling that it's pretty much a hoax.
NewYorkActuary (
talk) 18:04, 24 April 2017 (UTC)reply
Just for the record, since not everybody here is an admin who can actually see deleted revisions, the potential hoax that NewYorkActuary is talking about is that the original deleted iteration of this article was actually a copy-paste of
Jeb Bush with only the name in the introduction changed — and even the current kept version started out that way too before being edited toward its current version. To be fair, the original creator might have been just trying to use Jeb as a template for how to format the article, so that fact doesn't definitively prove that the current version is still a hoax — but the sheer lack of sourceability here does mean that "it's still a hoax" isn't outside the range of possibilities.
Bearcat (
talk) 16:12, 26 April 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete As has been pointed out, although
WP:NPOL says that politicians 'who have held... national or sub-national (statewide/provincewide) office are deemed notable; but, crucially, that this is also secondary to
WP:GNG- it assumes that 'people who satisfy this criterion will almost always satisfy the primary criterion. Which the subject of this article does not; a
WP:BEFORE search actually brings up only one source(
[1]), which hardly mentions him at all. Tha being the case, I am very tempted to also concur that we are being hoaxed that the name exists, but is not in the Indonesian legislature- otherwise why so little coverage? However, I also note that the article actually states that 'was a senatorial candidate'- and if only a candidate, then, per
WP:POLOUTCOMES, 'candidates who ran but never were elected for a national legislature or other national office are not viewed as having inherent notability. Eitherway, fails
WP:ANYBIO and [WP:NPOL]] by miles. —
O Fortuna semper crescis, aut decrescis 16:57, 29 April 2017 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.