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The result was keep. It seems like the sources offered by the keep camp have been mostly uncontested and valid counterarguments were offered on the
WP:BLP1E concerns as well. I see the canvassing concerns but even discounting the head-count completely the keep camp appears to have the stronger, better supported arguments. A page move or merge discussion can be initiated if people feel that the topic is better covered under another subject.
Jo-Jo Eumerus (
talk,
contributions)
07:02, 10 May 2019 (UTC)reply
Strong keep per GNG (disclaimer: article creator). Also, nominating editor should know the page should be redirected, not deleted, if the subject is not independently notable. But I believe there's sufficient secondary coverage. They were notable even before appearing on RPDR. ---
Another Believer(
Talk)20:47, 2 May 2019 (UTC)reply
Woodensuperman, I understand your concerns about canvassing, but simply posting links to AfD pages at a relevant WikiProject should not be problematic, especially when WikiProject RuPaul's Drag Race members have been perfectly willing to vote merge/redirect in past discussions (see
example1 and
example2). I think you should actually assume good faith and welcome editors most familiar with the subjects to participate in the ongoing discussions, thanks. ---
Another Believer(
Talk)13:49, 2 May 2019 (UTC)reply
Delete and redirect noticed this through sexuality related AfD. "He has two dogs, named Edgar and Felicity" Wikipedia is not a social media page to show trivial matters of that nature and not every contestant that appears in a show are inherently notable. The page should be deleted, then redirected into show or the season's page where the person can be a line item in the season.
Graywalls (
talk) 19:15, 2 May 2019 (UTC) Clarify: not addressed to anyone in particular. Just reading through the article, I'm getting the impression that this subject is known only for their appearance in a season and I'm not finding them to surpass
WP:BIO notability and the inclusion of trivial information like her pets in my opinion is an indication of struggling notability and padding it up with
anything verifiable via secondary sources.
Graywalls (
talk) 00:39, 3 May 2019 (UTC) (note to closing admin: my vote casted precedes ANI closure )
Graywalls (
talk)
12:01, 9 May 2019 (UTC)reply
Keep There are numerous citations of this drag queen pre-Drag Race, for her shows, for her fashion, for her charity work, etc. I'll update the article to reflect this, as that should help make the case.
Bouncehoper (
talk)
15:49, 3 May 2019 (UTC)reply
Keep there are enough sources to pass GNG, not only for RPDR, but also for gay rights activism. In addition, I'd argue that the
National Entertainer of the Year is a notable award and an important one in the drag community. The article for
Drag pageantry needs serious work, but there's a lot of sources out there on the various drag pageants.
Megalibrarygirl (
talk)
18:44, 4 May 2019 (UTC)reply
Keep. The subject has raised over $2 million from their charity, which is thought to be the only "drag-queen-supported fund of its kind"; won an Entertainer of the Year award; won a Create Columbus Commission Visionary Award from the
Columbus City Council; won an equality award from the
Human Rights Campaign; and was included in Columbus Business Firsts "40 Under 40" list in 2018... all before appearing on RPDR. The recent RPDR coverage has only increased their profile, but that's not all they're known for. --
Kbabej (
talk)
22:47, 6 May 2019 (UTC)reply
Keep. This subject, though made viral by a reality show, was a person of prominence in the LGBT+ community for many years, and had one of the most significant and well-funded non-national LGBT+ charities. The widespread influence of this subject cannot be denied. --
vvayside (
talk)
22:47, 6 May 2019 (UTC)reply
Keep The subject of the article certainly rose to prominence due to his participation in RuPaul's Drag Race, but he was a notable before this, which is especially demonstrated in the "Personal life and philanthropy" section of the article. Ditto the comments provided by
Kbabej above. Several reliable sources are referenced. This article should be kept.
Yompi20 (
talk)
16:11, 8 May 2019 (UTC)reply
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