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The result was delete. czar 04:48, 21 January 2019 (UTC) reply

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Local mayor whose only claim to fame is telling David Hogg to "eat it". Local coverage of this one event. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 13:30, 13 January 2019 (UTC) reply

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. Bakazaka ( talk) 18:43, 13 January 2019 (UTC) reply

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Maine-related deletion discussions. Bakazaka ( talk) 18:43, 13 January 2019 (UTC) reply

• Keep Isgro is now vice-chair of the Maine Republican Party and a multi-term mayor of one of Maine's largest cities. Those are his "claims to fame". The incident with David Hogg contributes to his notability but its existence is not reason to delete his article.-- TM 18:54, 13 January 2019 (UTC) reply
• Delete. Neither being vice-chair of a state political party chapter, nor being mayor of a city with a population of just 16K, constitutes an automatic free pass over WP:NPOL — and no, the fact that the state is small enough that a population of 16K is enough to make it one of the state's 15 largest cities does not automatically make him special, as the notability standards for mayors do not test for the city's ranking in an ordinal list of city sizes either. The notability test for smalltown mayors hinges entirely on the ability to reliably source enough genuinely substantive content about him to make him a special case over and above most other smalltown mayors — but that hasn't been shown here at all, and nothing that has been shown here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt the article from having to pass that test. Bearcat ( talk) 20:07, 13 January 2019 (UTC) reply
• Keep Does Isgro's notability rise "over and above" most people in a similar office? Of course. Both the controversy around David Hogg and his subsequent election as vice chair of the Maine Republican Party mark Isgro as substantially more notable than Maine mayors of cities twice the size of Waterville. But more importantly, this case raises questions of who and what Wikipedia is for. As mayor of one of the largest cities in the state and vice chair of Maine's GOP, Isgro is an inherently important figure in the Maine political landscape. Failing to include him in Wikipedia would deprive readers interested in Maine politics of important information. OnAcademyStreet ( talk) 03:22, 14 January 2019 (UTC) reply

"The controversy around David Hogg" just makes him a WP:BLP1E, and being vice-chair of a state political party counts for exactly jackspit against our notability criteria in the absence of enough reliable source coverage about his work in that role to get him over WP:GNG for it. Our job here is not to keep articles about people who can't be properly sourced as notable just because one random anonymous internet person thinks they're important — our job is to follow the media coverage, create articles about people who get enough media coverage to pass our notability standards, and not create articles about people who don't. The depth and range and volume of reliable source coverage in media is what tells us whether a person is actually "important" enough to have a Wikipedia article or not — nobody is ever so critically important for us to have an article about that we waive the sourcing requirements on the grounds that their importance somehow outweighs their inadequate sourceability. Bearcat ( talk) 22:50, 14 January 2019 (UTC) reply

• Delete – looks like a BLP1E situation. He is not notable other than for his reportedly inappropriate statements about David Hogg. Being the mayor of a small town does not usually constitute an encyclopedia article on Wikipedia automatically, like Bearcat stated. Fails first criteria of WP:GNG and fails criteria two of WP:NPOL. CookieMonster755 ✉ 06:07, 15 January 2019 (UTC) reply
• Delete Just because Waterville's last mayor ended up becoming governor does not make the office itself notable. Laurier Raymond and other mayors of Lewiston, despite their own "foot-in-mouth" moments, do not pass notability for those events. Normally, party insiders and apparatchiks don't meet notability standards. And despite being one of the "largest cities in the state" (and in that case, everything is relative), Waterville is not a city of global prominence where a mayor would be globally known (See Rudy Guiliani, John Tory, Rob Ford, etc.) Bkissin ( talk) 19:27, 15 January 2019 (UTC) reply

To be fair, the notability standards for mayors aren't as dependent on global city status as the notability standards for city councillors are. They do still require more substance and sourcing than this, certainly, but they aren't limited to cities of global prominence. Cities far outside that range can have articles about their mayors if we can write and source articles with some actual meat to them, even in cities where the city councillors aren't getting in the door. Bearcat ( talk) 23:33, 15 January 2019 (UTC) reply

Delete Does not meet WP:NPOL or WP:GNG, most of his coverage leans towards it being a WP:BLP1E situation. GPL93 ( talk) 00:54, 17 January 2019 (UTC) reply

• Delete per CookieMonster755. -- Enos733 ( talk) 00:23, 18 January 2019 (UTC) reply
• Delete supper fail of any reasonable notability test. Wikipedia is not news. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 00:17, 19 January 2019 (UTC) reply

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