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Unelected MP, and an interim cabinet minister. As discussed at
Wikipedia_talk:Notability_(people)#Caretaker_cabinet_members, I don't think interim cabinet minister are something that would be expected to have an article on English Wikipedia, unless pass GNG.
Subject also lacks non-trivial coverage from independent reliable sources and therefore does not appear to meet basic GNG as well.
Keep: Holding ministerial office, even in a "caretaker" cabinet, appears to pass
WP:NPOL ("held international, national or sub-national (statewide/provincewide) office". And she has the 2nd-highest civilian honour in her country. The discussion about caretaker minister notability seems inconclusive.
PamD08:34, 17 October 2018 (UTC)reply
Delete From previous discussion ofa similar case "Caretaker" ministers, generally civil servants who held the office solely by virtue of being the top person in the line of succession between the end of the previous holder's term and the appointment or election of the official new permanent holder, are not entitled to the same automatic presumption of notability that a regular cabinet minister would get.[1] seems to indicate this person was simply a civil servant in a caretaker role. Also severely lacking in sources to demonstrate notability.
[2],
[3]. WCMemail12:23, 17 October 2018 (UTC)reply
Keep - notable in its own right. She is the recipient of two awards including the 2nd-highest civilian honour which is enough to pass
WP:ANYBIO. Her philanthropist contributions are also note-worthy + caretaker ministry.
Störm(talk)18:36, 17 October 2018 (UTC)reply
I now have no opinion, as there's coverage of her receiving the major award in English-language Pakistani publications. I have no opinion on whether this is an automatic notability pass, but less concerned about deleting based on the bad sourcing per
WP:NEXIST.
SportingFlyertalk21:26, 30 October 2018 (UTC)reply
Keep the subject cant get a free pass for
WP:NPOL because it was an extremely short term post. There is a clear consensus among editors at
Wikipedia_talk:Notability_(people)#Caretaker_cabinet_members to not give such a free pass. I am inclined to vote Keep only because I believe a person getting both the 2nd and 3rd highest civilian award passes the notability criteria. The notable work that they did to deserve these 2 awards also makes them notable to pass
WP:NBIO.
Saqib do you have any reasons to disregard these awards, let me know and I am willing to reconsider my !vote. --DBigXrayᗙ21:12, 23 October 2018 (UTC)reply
Looks like she gets a mention if not an article in English-language Pakistani press such as Dawn. Don't have the source at the moment, though, but easily found with a web search.
SportingFlyertalk08:49, 24 October 2018 (UTC)reply
Keep I can quite quickly find mentions of her in her capacities as minister, donor of university research centres, etc, (including quotes of remarks she made) over at least a 6 year period in papers like Pakistan Today, Business Recorder, The Express Tribune, Dawn, and The International News.
RebeccaGreen (
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08:54, 28 October 2018 (UTC)reply
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