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The result was keep. postdlf ( talk) 02:22, 8 December 2014 (UTC) reply

NKosi Ntsikayezwe Sigcau (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)

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Under-sourced and non-netural. — Swpb ^talk 15:43, 1 December 2014 (UTC) reply

Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Everymorning talk to me 16:04, 1 December 2014 (UTC) reply

Note: This debate has been included in the list of South Africa-related deletion discussions. Everymorning talk to me 16:04, 1 December 2014 (UTC) reply

• Keep on procedural grounds. Nominator states that the article is a BLP, which is a "Biography of a living person". This person died in 1996. There are indications of notability in the article, and I will support deletion only if a diligent search for reliable sources has been conducted, swpb. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 05:32, 2 December 2014 (UTC) reply

You can search for RS and bring the article into an acceptable state if you want. I'm not obligated to do so. — Swpb ^talk 12:51, 2 December 2014 (UTC) reply

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 02:30, 4 December 2014 (UTC) reply

• Keep, but move to Ntsikayezwe Sigcau. The article is definitely under-sourced, but while one of the sources already in the article is a speech, and therefore probably not a reliable source in itself, the other source does seem reliable and should have prompted a search for more before nomination, particularly since there was a clear claim in the article for WP:NPOL#1 - which he meets, even though as this source says, the parliament of which he was a member was a provincial rather than a national one. (And previous mentions in this source, while not particularly detailed, rather suggest that press coverage should be forthcoming from the 1980s and 1990s.) The reason for the suggested move is that nkosi is a title roughly meaning chief - available sources often either use "chief" instead or omit the title altogether. PWilkinson ( talk) 13:35, 7 December 2014 (UTC) reply
• Keep It's long established that AFD is not clean up, so being "undersourced and non-neutral" are not valid reasons for deletion and, contrary to what the nominator says in a reply above, yes, it is clear from the WP:AFD page that people nominating any page for deletion should go through the preliminaries outline at WP:BEFORE ("if there are verifiability, notability or other sourcing concerns, take reasonable steps to search for reliable sources....The minimum search expected is a Google Books search and a Google News archive search; Google Scholar is suggested for academic subjects. Such searches should in most cases take only a minute or two to perform.") as otherwise we run the risk of losing valid content. Besides meeting WP:POLITICIAN, the subject receives coverage here, here, and here. Valenciano ( talk) 01:16, 8 December 2014 (UTC) reply

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